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#26 MickRip

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 00:03

Real men don't need arrangers.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 00:05

Or managers!

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 09:23

Real men sequence vertically

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 09:33

Ever had one of your mates dump a wonderful girl for a good-looking but vacuous strumpet?


Oh yeah! Even I have done it myself.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 09:50

wait, who are you?

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 10:02

im with Choice.
really, there are by far more bs- threads in the off- topic forum than this one.
but all in all, those who know the rns- community should better stay/leave quiet.

is this really off topic though?

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 10:36

Ho guys, I'm off. Bye.

=> OFF topic.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 10:51

but you didn't mention renoise neel.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 11:09

Renoise is useless without an arranger.

A weak statement against a lot of existing evidence available on the contrary.

We're not speaking here about a problem of what is not in it, but why it has to take so long before it gets in it.

I understand Choice his response in some way, but i regret the point of selfishness that he overlooks:
Almost anything (if not everything) implemented up to date are user requested features, voted features.
If you all want all voted features implemented then there should be room for patience for as long as it might take.
And just because a personal desired feature is not implemented does not justify to make a statement that "nothing has happened". I personally consider that just a selfish statement.

Don't forget that after Renoise 1.5, Taktik had done most of the code portions by himself the past four years and some of the development changes took ten thousands of lines to program and weeks of work.

If one does not has the patience for understanding and appreciation for the other things that have been implemented, then so be it. It's a free world.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 11:17

Okay. So he dumps a tracker interface for Ableton because of the arranger!?
Something tells me, trackers was never for him in the first place.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 11:40

A weak statement against a lot of existing evidence available on the contrary.

We're not speaking here about a problem of what is not in it, but why it has to take so long before it gets in it.

I understand Choice his response in some way, but i regret the point of selfishness that he overlooks:
Almost anything (if not everything) implemented up to date are user requested features, voted features.
If you all want all voted features implemented then there should be room for patience for as long as it might take.
And just because a personal desired feature is not implemented does not justify to make a statement that "nothing has happened". I personally consider that just a selfish statement.

Don't forget that after Renoise 1.5, Taktik had done most of the code portions by himself the past four years and some of the development changes took ten thousands of lines to program and weeks of work.

If one does not has the patience for understanding and appreciation for the other things that have been implemented, then so be it. It's a free world.


I should have better put that line in a quote. -_-
Just to clear up - that's not my opinion. That's something that guy wrote in another thread recently.

Personally, I'd recommend just to forget about this. I mean, c'mon: one pissed user amongst many happy users. And only pissed, because he didn't got what he wanted in two years, although it was clearly stated in many topics, that an arranger needs other preperations in beforehand.
Doing such a thread instead of contributing with ideas, is rather attention whoring without any productive or creative input.
All in all: ignore the fuss by this person, as it is not worth to look into. End.

Bottom line: I want "my" Re-Wire and "my" Pianoroll now! Otherwise I switch to Reason after almost 7 years with Renoise! *caugh*

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 11:44

Bottom line: I want "my" Re-Wire and "my" Pianoroll now! Otherwise I switch to Reason after almost 7 years with Renoise! *caugh*


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Posted 27 January 2009 - 11:54

what the heck is an arranger?

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 12:32

Doing such a thread instead of contributing with ideas, is rather attention whoring without any productive or creative input.
All in all: ignore the fuss by this person, as it is not worth to look into. End.

Everyone has the right to complain but we also have the right to defend ourselves, even if it is only one voice -> if the language is not fair, posing arguments have to be supplied. By doing that we also to give a signal that we *are* really listening to our users it's just we can't serve them all together at once.

If a popstar would deliver personal signatures to all his fans, he would be only busy giving signatures instead of producing that what is most important to his fans:music.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 12:39

but you didn't mention renoise neel.


Errrrrr, I think my joke jumped from the Empire State Building.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 14:28

I had been waiting for Ableton Live to add a tracker interface for two years, so I quit and got Renoise... :D :yeah:

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 14:39

I had been waiting for Ableton Live to add a tracker interface for two years, so I quit and got Renoise... :D :yeah:


Hahaha! We have a winner!
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 15:06

So close to godwin.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 15:14

If the guy paid for Renoise, it seems a bit odd to jump ship so readily (unless he is a fickle cash monger).

Renoise to Ableton is a leap from EUR 49.00 to EUR 699.

The arranger is worth EUR 650?

Wow.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 15:25

Warez sense tingling :lol:

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hay guises! action/reaction. I'm not into leaving or avoiding places, I ban 'em by making sure I get banned.. loadsa noise, little signal.. basically anything else makes more sense to spend energy on. thanks for the app, but from here on out we simply don't have any use for each other period. oh, and of course big shoutouts to bit-arts and kaneel and anyone else I forgot :D :D

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 15:37

You know it.

If I ever spent money on something as intangible as software, I spend every waking hour learning as much as I can about it.

I think most people are the same, right?

I don't think Renoise is limiting in any real way for making modern music. It is practically perfect now, and it can make anything you want, so if people are jumping ship to a massively more expensive unit, I feel that they may be on the robbing end of the scale.

Having said that, I chug the warez like the best of the them, so I can't really criticize. My point was more that, don't worry about what a fly by night warez collector thinks about your baby, because the chances are he hasn't spent any time getting to know it (due to the lack of investment), so his opinions are irrelevant.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 18:24

-goes to find some warez

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 19:52

as I am engaged and have a sex-life now, I quit renoise.


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Naw, I love my renoise - not as much as my fiancee but still enough for buying the next licence when 2.28 appears :)

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 20:41

If the guy paid for Renoise, it seems a bit odd to jump ship so readily (unless he is a fickle cash monger).

Renoise to Ableton is a leap from EUR 49.00 to EUR 699.

The arranger is worth EUR 650?

Wow.



In my case, I really regret buying logic 7. Spent loads of money on that, and Renoise has become my tool fo choice.

Regardless, bruv, I have a question to ask you. I'll pm you or something. How's things been btw?

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:42

Yeah good mate... PM me!
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