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#276 Bungle

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Posted 18 May 2016 - 02:58

The reason vertical waveforms were suggested were simply so that they could be in the same view.  There's nothing super special about vertical waveforms, but Renoise tracks run vertical therefore audio tracks would have to.  It's not about having merit, it's just the way it would have to be.

 

Redux is great but it is still just an instrument plugin.  If you want to sequence a whole song tracker style it's way better to use Renoise.

 

Rendering stems out of Renoise and then doing your audio track recording is completely counter to the creative process.

 

The best option right now is to just use Rewire.  There are downsides to that as well though.  I personally don't want anything super fancy, just the ability to create an audio track and record into it.  A simple thing that would make a massive difference in workflow.

Renoise Tracks run vertical, therefore automation envelopes would have to be.......oh wait

 

If you want to sequence a whole song, tracker style, remind me, why do you need audio tracks ?

 

Rendering stems is counter to the creative process, what planet you been on for the last twenty years, we have all been doing that for various and sundry for a long time.

 

You don't want anything fancy, just vertical waveforms from audio tracks in a tracker, yep a simple thing.


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Posted 18 May 2016 - 03:43

1. Ok, so you could have horizontal audio tracks, and have to click each track individually to see the content pop up at the bottom like you currently have to do for automation, but that would kind of silly.

2. For recording audio?  I don't understand the question.

3. If you seriously can't understand what I meant I'm just not even going to engage the argument any further

4. I never said it was simple to implement.  I'm not an idiot, I know it would be quite challenging if not practically impossible.  I meant simple in that I don't care about the fancier features others have dreamed up in this thread, just a simple audio track implementation.



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Posted 26 May 2016 - 07:49

1 Kind of silly, is that full explanation of why audio waveforms should be vertical is it, damn, every DAW in existence is "Kind of silly" Renoises audio editor is "kind of silly"

 

2 You said, specifically, you want to sequence a whole song tracker style, Trackers do not have linear recording, understand now ?

 

3 Oh i understand exactly what you mean, but you obviously do not

 

4 All the fancy things people have dream't up in this thread, are probably the easier parts to implement

 

It's a tracker people, for tracking, hex, numbers, no hit record and record my band, that is what a real DAW is for ;)


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 11:10

Hhhhh... come on, loosen up a bit will you :) Yes, it is a tracker, obviously. But that doesn't mean it can't be expanded into something more in the future. My impression is that a lot of people would love to see a type of audiotrack-feature being implemented, vertical, horizontal or whatever, and if you don't need it, then ignore it, don't use it, how about just accepting that others wish for other things than yourself and move on? :)

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 16:21

Why ?

The releases are few and far between here, the support needed to implement all these features would be off the charts, the development time would be off the chart.

But for one or two users that actually cant be bothered to go and use a DAW to record, they should halt development of Redux and the composing features in Renoise, to implemnet audio tracks right, then on top of that they should implement them vertically into the pattern UI hahaha

I will lighten up, when some people here get a reality check hahaha


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 19:25

Well.. "audiotracks" has been one of the hottest topics on this forum for years, and as far as I remember it was in the top of the "most wanted" features poll a few years back, so I'm pretty convinced it's a big deal for more than one or two users. I have no idea how much time it would take to develop - but it wouldn't have to be a full-on multitrack recording DAW type of solution, my impression is that the main reason for wanting audiotracks is better visualization of whats going on with long recordings, not just a C-4 note in the first pattern.


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Posted 06 June 2016 - 03:11

My impression is that this was wanted a long time before this thread started, this thread started in 2009, since then even the sampler has been broken off in to its own plugin, i think it is pretty safe to say either this feature is the longest ever development in the history of any DAW in any reality throughout all plains of existence, or it simply isn't happening.

While everybody here has been discussing audio tracks, Bitwig was thought about and developed and released, Studio One was thought about, developed, released and indeed is now on it's 3rd major version.

We can pretty much infer that this is not high on the developers list, it is just a tracker, it is not a linear DAW.


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Posted 06 June 2016 - 16:00

Well.. "audiotracks" has been one of the hottest topics on this forum for years, and as far as I remember it was in the top of the "most wanted" features poll a few years back, so I'm pretty convinced it's a big deal for more than one or two users. I have no idea how much time it would take to develop - but it wouldn't have to be a full-on multitrack recording DAW type of solution, my impression is that the main reason for wanting audiotracks is better visualization of whats going on with long recordings, not just a C-4 note in the first pattern.

 

Well, if it's all about visual information, the sampler's visualization is already in place, so it shouldn't be too difficult for the devs to clone that data into a new detached window or as background projections inside the pattern tracks.

 

Of course it's not just more visualization that users demand, but new ways to drag and drop the audio files in a timeline rather than placing out a C-4 note some lines up or down in the pattern editor.

 

Actually, I think we'll see audio tracks in the next major Renoise update, however, probably not in the "conventional" way. Maybe they'll have a shot at handling notes as dragable items as well, offering some basic pianoroll (however also probably not in the "conventional" way). Maybe zooming is part of the solution...


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Posted 05 September 2016 - 20:37

I can't be bothered / don't have the time to learn cubase or ableton, plus I dont want to take the risk of learning less 'industry standard' DAWs such as reaper and presonus studio one...only to have them fall out of favour like sony acid studio a few years later. Also I am broke and cant afford these things so please add audiotracks feature to future renoise. Hope so....


Edited by Mister Sombrero, 05 September 2016 - 20:39.


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Posted 10 May 2017 - 20:23

I think this is a great idea!


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