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#1 Knetter

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 11:24

Hi,
Just recovering from my temporary :panic: about the new version... The features are dazzling awesome! But what kind of cool stuff can you do with the signal follower? I've heard something about side-chaining, but how to do that in practice? For example: Do you control the volume of a beat inclusive the signal-followed channel? Or do you put stuff on a send-channel and control that whole "bus" whatever parameter?
Post your examples/ideas here please!

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 13:14

Track 01: Kickdrum
Track 02: Bassline

Put the signal follower on the kickdrum track. Then you can setup the signal follower to control the volume, or any other parameter of any device, of Track 2. Just try it, it's easy.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 14:38

how does one make it so you cant hear the kick, but it's still activating the signal follower? :blink:

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 14:43

how does one make it so you cant hear the kick, but it's still activating the signal follower? :blink:


Muting the channel :)

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 14:44

Muting the channel :)

OF COURSE!

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 14:48

how does one make it so you cant hear the kick, but it's still activating the signal follower? :blink:

Put a gainer after SF in your dsp chain and bring the gain down to -inf. np

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 17:49

Track 01: Kickdrum
Track 02: Bassline

Put the signal follower on the kickdrum track. Then you can setup the signal follower to control the volume, or any other parameter of any device, of Track 2. Just try it, it's easy.


Ah I see, typically you invert the min max parameters of the SF?

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 17:52

Put a gainer after SF in your dsp chain and bring the gain down to -inf. np

thats the best way because its automatable, whereas mutes aren't... i think?

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 18:45

Ah I see, typically you invert the min max parameters of the SF?

Hi Knetter :-)
That's exactly what I did, too. Moreover, you can adjust the lookhead value ... sounds more obvious then.
I opened a thread about the signal follower sidechain compression.

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Edited by Airmann, 02 January 2010 - 19:06.

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 19:08

OF COURSE!


alternatively (do this quite often): Insert a gainer and set gain to -INF

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 21:46

You can also use the Signal Follower as a more fluid gating effect, by placing it on a track directly followed by the gainer it's controlling (on the same track), then tweak to give your track more punch. The same goes for EQ, though I suggest using the mastering EQ instead of the EQ5 because for some reason, the EQ5 seems to inject "dirt" into the mix when tweaking the band gain.

Other uses: Ducking reverb levels on a track's attacks, so as to make the track verby but still punchy. I particularly like using it with lofimat2 to add more dynamic digital distortion to tracks. Using it on distortion has its merits too, but I'm still trying to figure out the best way to make nasty with distortion. Using it with filters is alright, but not as impressive as i'd hoped. Ringmod offers some unique possibilities. Also, I've used it with stereo expanders for some interesting stereo effects.

I have other cool uses, but I'm keeping those to myself, because I really don't want to give em up :P .... they're just too cool.

The important thing though, is to experiment. Don't be afraid to chain it to your synths via the automation device.... you may find it's the device that changes your sound forever.
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 22:00

You can also use the Signal Follower as a more fluid gating effect, by placing it on a track directly followed by the gainer it's controlling (on the same track), then tweak to give your track more punch. The same goes for EQ, though I suggest using the mastering EQ instead of the EQ5 because for some reason, the EQ5 seems to inject "dirt" into the mix when tweaking the band gain.

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I have other cool uses, but I'm keeping those to myself, because I really don't want to give em up :P .... they're just too cool.

The important thing though, is to experiment. Don't be afraid to chain it to your synths via the automation device.... you may find it's the device that changes your sound forever.


Good hints, thx Bytesmasher .... now I'm really curious about your secret uses ;-).
Generally I think the possibilities of SF are enormous.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 03:24

They mostly involve 3rd party plugins
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Posted 03 January 2010 - 03:41

Try this out: Signal Follower -> LFO Reset
Works best on drums :)

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 03:48

and the LFO controlls... what? :)

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 04:24

and the LFO controlls... what? :)


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Posted 03 January 2010 - 04:27

and the LFO controlls... what? :)

The almighty LFO controls all! Go forth and modulate, brother! May the parameters smile upon you!
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Posted 03 January 2010 - 06:23

and the LFO controlls... what? :)

Doesn't matter. It may control what ever you want.
The trick is just triggering LFO with audio

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 12:19

or you can use the follower to make a vocoder... http://www.renoise.c...o...c=23362&hl=

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 12:41

a good trick is to control a hydra's input slider with a signal follower on the kick track. then you can control volume on multiple channels with one SF!

The trick is just triggering LFO with audio

likin this idea!

Edited by jasper, 03 January 2010 - 12:43.


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Posted 03 January 2010 - 17:31

Have yet to use the frigging velocity, key-tracking & hydra device properly! Signal follower has mainly been volume ducking, will bump this thread if I find some wicked combo.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 21:02

Have yet to use the frigging velocity, key-tracking & hydra device properly!


lol, I thought I was the only one

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 18:02

Can the SF make Tea? Or make poitin?
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Posted 05 January 2010 - 12:17

Can the SF make Tea? Or make poitin?


Well, if you put the SF on the hot water track and link it to a teabag's ratio.. I recommend a small attack, unless you like your tea very strong. Also, put an LFO on the milk and sugar's cutoff, but only if that's your cup of tea.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 21:19

"teabag's ratio." ^_^


sf > hydra > multiple stutter devices on the master track all with different settings = \:D/
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