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#26 OopsIFly

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 13:33

Such filters will delay selected frequencies around the cutoff, but leave others untouched and won't change the levels of frequencies. Traditional uses are phasers and synthetic reverbs, where the frequency selective delays plus feedback can create ringings and phase cancellations (phaser) or can "smear" frequecies in time (reverbs).

 

As I've said, a single allpass filter can also change the shape of a waveform. That's why I've suggested trying it out on analog waveforms and looking at the scopes or sample data, like a sawwave will no longer look like a sawwave but will still sound the same, and when you put it through a distortion in those morphed states it can result in different harmonics generated compared to the plain state. Also transients can sound a bit different, click type noises like an attack of a bassdrum where the "click" impulse will be kind of "strechted in time" in subtle ways. I think this effect is very useful for altering sounds expecially when distortions are in the game. Maybe it might also help to kind of "compress" a waveform in a way that hard steps and peaks are weakened a bit without really compromising the way they'll sound to the ear.

 

After quick googling found nothing about this particular device in the past of renoise, maybe it wasn't "deprecated" but rather "hidden" all the time for pure dsp testing purposes. Like the faust device that I can't really find anything that could be done with it for - probably there's an abi in it, and it's for internal testing of dsp code also. It's not that grand find after all due to the limited usefulness, but I though maybe one or other might find it interesting to play with.



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Posted 05 June 2015 - 07:17

Based on taktik's post here

these are the new deprecated devices in the transition from R3.0 to Redux (and probably R3.1):

"Filter3Device"
"RingModDevice"
"CombDevice"
"ChorusDevice"
"FlangerDevice"
"PhaserDevice"

Tried a few and they do work in Redux, even the older ones on page1 do!



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Posted 05 June 2015 - 08:30

Also, the Redux modulation page comes with a preset containing the old filters

XXX -> Old Filters

 

But the new ones are awesome, so why bother...  ^_^


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Posted 05 June 2015 - 16:44

danoise: there's no shelf filter



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Posted 05 June 2015 - 22:03

Sorry, I couldn't resist  :P

I think the shelfs are useful too - it's just that the remaining filters sound quite awful if you compare them. 

 

So, having this preset 'baked in' solves more than one problem...

 

 


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Posted 05 September 2015 - 22:15

Can someone upload me a depreciated device folder? I only have mmd_stutter.xrnt for stuter and while the pasting method works, but would be nice have them available to just drag in :)



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Posted 05 September 2015 - 23:27

fineprimitivesounds:

http://forum.renoise...ffect/?p=329102


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 12:48

 

Oh wows, thank you!!  :yeah:  :yeah:



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Posted 09 December 2015 - 15:34

Filter3


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<FilterDeviceClipboard doc_version="0">
<DeviceSlot type="Filter3Device">
<IsActive>true</IsActive>
</DeviceSlot>
</FilterDeviceClipboard>


Select the above text, then right-click in a DSP lane, and choose "Paste"

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Posted 24 January 2016 - 04:51

I request the return of a "deprecated" folder.