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#26 phuture

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 14:13

don't sit down while making music! ^_^

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 15:12

Make a really basic pattern and knob twiddle (or mouse frigg) while it loops and feel like you are doing a concert in front of 15,000 people off their faces on various dodgy substances including washing detergents and elephant tranquilisers

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 15:50

@Matt: i reached for the non-existent 'Like'-button :)

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 16:12

@Matt: i reached for the non-existent 'Like'-button :)


But this forum has a +1 button...

I was gonna say he forgot the plant food though ;)

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 17:37

@kazakore: ah yes thanks i almost forgot, pushed it immediately ! :)

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 18:16

dive into this big universe of music software (dont forget the 90's).
try to switch the platform/OS for experimentation.
as soon as you get back to your mainhost *boom*.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 20:14

if you're not running linux, install it and try and make it all work.
if you're already running linux, delete some pretty crucial folder and make it all work again.

anytime you get frustrated because you are running into problems, make some music. :)

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:43

Place a #Line-In Device (Make sure you have mic plugged in) and a Delay with feedback and time cranked all the way up (Turn the send down a bit too). Throw shit around and make noise. You should now have a unique rhythmic pattern. (Or a bunch of noise) Also hook an LFO to the pan knob on #Line-in.

Also record to tape and then back to computer while violating the moving parts. (Make sure that you don't know the tape deck personally.)

Edited by bezasajyd, 10 September 2011 - 03:46.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 05:11

If you generally sequence everything, try (midi)recording parts live even if you can't play keys very well. Quantize it if it sounds awful, see that it doesn't quantize like you expected, listen and find out renoise chose a better rhythm for your awesome riffs than you did, bingo!, maybe...

Do the opposite if you usually start composing by hitting the record button with pattern follow enabled.

Or, quit trying and just do some sampling. Construct a kit of sounds that revolve around the vibe you're after. You don't have to make anything out of them right away or ever. You can always use samples for something else later. But maybe you'll get a bit excited about trying your new samples out and make some mad hitz right away.

Read some music theory texts.

Read about about types of music that are _not_ electronic. Mexican, Classical, Indian, bebop jazz, Randy Rhodes, the folk music of your area, whatever. Read from a student/theory perspective and try to implement the song structure, rhythms and/or scales, melody and harmony style etc. in your tracker. So what if you don't make anything from this that you want to show to your girlfriend(s)? Hopefully you learned something cool to use later.

If all else fails:

Do a cover song.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:10

1. take a nap
2. dream about the most epic musical idea that has ever caressed the ears of humanity
3. wake up
4. get off the couch
5. get on the computer
6. actually remember what the idea was
7. write it down

you get extra points if it still sounds as epic as you remember it from your dream after you've written it down.

EDIT:

- read most articles here http://27bslash6.com/

oh god this site is halerious

Edited by Mandulin, 10 September 2011 - 06:59.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 15:25

Finally say "screw it, i'll just get some hot chocolate and read the manual."

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 17:00

- try and find some inspiration in the Renoise Cheat Sheet
- pick up any instrument you own and try and make sounds with it in ways that it was not designed for
- look at some Diego Stocco videos
- read the Out of Ideas mega-thread :)

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 15:38

Oh I found a bruton music cd entitled "Industry 2" from the early 90's.
Its very clear minimal and well produced music with simple titles and short descriptions, the label is collectable, some are expensive, if you find any or can get some for 5 pounds or dollars or whatever I would say buy one.

I was sitting in my local Cathedrial the other day.
The organ player/tuner/er? was playing every note sequentially from low end to high.
Maybe at least a minute a note. He did this for three times over or so.

I did the same thing at home with a trippier darker patch on my synth. It cleanses the mind or ears a bit, also I found my keyboard playing to be alot better soon afterwards.

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 01:12

Interesting, maybe its tuning up brain? Thx for this tip.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 01:53

Out of ideas? Shave your balls. Sounds stupid but if you don't do this all the time it might get you into strange state of mind once you do it. Actualy made my hard electro project move :drummer:
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:31

@vietkong: best idea yet. makes all the others look pretty stupid. :)

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#42 Simonus

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 14:36

There is small problem in this idea.

Imagine, You are out of ideas and you have already shaved balls what then?

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 14:38

@Simonus: be patient, wait for the hair to grow back, THEN shave the balls again. your ideas will return the moment the razor touches the sack.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 14:48

Oh I found a bruton music cd entitled "Industry 2" from the early 90's.

If you like that stuff then you'll definitely like the Business Funk mix series by datashat (datassette's alter ego):


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Business Funk One:
http://datassette.ne...es&s=1213194548


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Business Funk Two:
http://datassette.ne...es&s=1213196104


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Business Funk Three:
http://datassette.ne...es&s=1300749069

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 18:28

@Simonus: be patient, wait for the hair to grow back, THEN shave the balls again. your ideas will return the moment the razor touches the sack.


Exactly


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Posted 23 September 2011 - 17:17

@simonous I think its clearing different parts of your audio perception so it is temporarily cleaning part of your brain

@dblue thanks I tried to listen to some of that once but I was interupted, I'll download them

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 19:35

well, maybe it`s not a big deal - 99% of new music is out of idea

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 22:28

look for Land of Bits in youtube to get a refill on your ideas bucket :guitar: :yeah: :ph34r: