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#76 danoise

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 12:56

I wanna understand how this tool is used. Is there a video somewhere I could look at?

 

No, I'm not much into shooting videos, sorry. 

 

It's really simple though. Default settings should allow you to start the tool and hit record.

Takes goes into the selected instruments' phrase bank, after which you should be able to use them. 

 

Repeat and rinse.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 13:23

No, I'm not much into shooting videos, sorry. 

 

It's really simple though. Default settings should allow you to start the tool and hit record.

Takes goes into the selected instruments' phrase bank, after which you should be able to use them. 

 

Repeat and rinse.

 

 

ok. does this automatically input the phrase into the pattern editor so that it will start immediately playing after phrase-recording has been finished?


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 14:40

Nope, this tool doesn't touch the pattern editor at all. 

 

Think of it like recording a line-in signal - just with notes instead of audio.

Usually, you wouldn't want that to place a note in the pattern editor either - although, it's a legit workflow that I've personally investigated with the Duplex recorder. 


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 15:18

Nope, this tool doesn't touch the pattern editor at all. 

 

Think of it like recording a line-in signal - just with notes instead of audio.

Usually, you wouldn't want that to place a note in the pattern editor either - although, it's a legit workflow that I've personally investigated with the Duplex recorder. 

 

I created a "phrase-sampler" (pattern-length-based) into Paketti which automatically input the instrument to the first row of "that channel", with a G01 glide command so if you recorded into a 16 row pattern for 256 rows worth of content, it would loop and then re-trigger when the sample stopped. there's definitely a usecase for "record and immediately play without stopping to track the trigger notes in" (blind-looping)


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#80 esaruoho

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 18:57

I opened Renoise and opened NoodleTrap and immediately was accosted with

'/Users/esaruoho/Library/Preferences/Renoise/V3.1.1/Scripts/Tools/com.renoise.Noodletrap.xrnx/main.lua' failed in one of its notifiers.
The notifier will be disabled to prevent further errors.

Please contact the author (danoise (bjorn@renoise.com)) for assistance...

no static 'get_selected_phrase' in class 'xPhraseManager'
stack traceback:
  [C]: ?
  ./classes/NTrap.lua:1157: in function '_get_phrase_lpb'
  ./classes/NTrapUI.lua:1836: in function '_apply_phrase_lpb_from_option'
  ./classes/NTrapUI.lua:1148: in function 'update'
  ./classes/NTrap.lua:605: in function '_on_idle'
  main.lua:98: in function <main.lua:88>

What am I doing wrong? I had no instrument selected in the instrument box.


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:46

What am I doing wrong? I had no instrument selected in the instrument box.

 

Ugh, looks like a bug. I'll investigate...


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 00:58

Just wanted to say dude, you're a debugging ninja :-D

 

I also admire the little motivational trick you pulled on yourself, hehe ;-)

 

Since I'm pushing updates to people who might have the tool updater running I think it's fair. 

I'm using you all as guinea pigs  :badteeth:



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:07

Ugh, looks like a bug. I'll investigate...

 

good luck! hope you find it :)


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 02:44

Ugh, looks like a bug. I'll investigate...

 

Yeah, me to - I was not aware of this tool until now - and it looks completely amazing!! :)


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 12:00

@esaruoho: hmm, I was not able to reproduce your exact problem.

Tried with the version from the tools page, running from a blank/new song. 

 

Need to investigate a bit deeper...

 

What am I doing wrong? I had no instrument selected in the instrument box.

 

Technically, you always have a selected instrument - empty, or not  :)

 

So I guess, in your case it was completely empty. No phrases, no nothing, as in "recently created" ? 


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 21:56

Lots of hanging notes here when noodling away .

Especcially when playing octaves 

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 19:56

I think that Noodletrap is the only tool that has potential to open real-time sequencing of phrases with different length (polyrhythms).

Have you been thinking maybe about combining noodletrap and duplex so there would be posibility to record and trigger phrases for different instruments (via launchpad for example - 8 x 8)?
It would be amazing.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 22:12

Lots of hanging notes here when noodling away .

Especcially when playing octaves 

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I'll need a bit more info. Such as, whether you are noodling via QWERTY or MIDI input? 

 

If you care about precision, you should stay away from QWERTY input - it's basically a "clever" workaround that simulates key release events - something we don't yet have in the Renoise API. But if you're experiencing this with MIDI input, then the tool needs fixing :-)

 

It would be amazing.

 

Yep, Duplex is a bit of an island here.

But I would probably think about ways to "route" the MIDI from Duplex into NT instead of rewriting the whole thing, as other things could benefit from this too then. 


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Posted 20 February 2018 - 13:34

Azerty noodling


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Posted 21 February 2018 - 21:14

'K, I'll take a look at it. 


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