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#126 toblerpone

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Posted 01 May 2015 - 09:12

@license: most probably not, as in, not realtime, didn't see a line-in device, you'll have to load samples, however, once again, why just not use rewire?



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Posted 01 May 2015 - 11:05

Redux came out the 1st of May 2015, it was quite a buzz untill Renoise 4 became the no. 1 DAW in Japan in 2017 spreading to the rest of the world quickly taking over the market completely and bought up by Googlesoft...oh maybe i shouldn't be spoiling all the fun, sometimes i forget that i'm in the future....

Well, the time/future actually isn't the problem in this case, I guess. I'm just quite sure you just posted in the wrong universe, with a different reality. :D


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Posted 01 May 2015 - 14:29

@license: most probably not, as in, not realtime, didn't see a line-in device, you'll have to load samples, however, once again, why just not use rewire?

I was wondering this after I posted. Would that work? I haven't tried ReWire in a long time and I thought audio could only go from slave to master, not master->slave->master.



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Posted 01 May 2015 - 17:35

@licence, no that is not possible, however if you'd really like to send slave audio back to the master you could simply use some kind of virtual audio 'port' there's the are 2 free ones from reaper, reastream and (to reaper only) rearoute, I think asio4all had something similar for 32bit enviroments



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Posted 03 May 2015 - 21:05

Well personally I think Redux will be already too complex for common users/vst customers. The the Renoise team is not so the best to highlight the (hidden) strengths of their products :) There are plenty.  If they do not simplify the excel look, the normal musicians will be afraid. Like graphical note lengths, automation of ALL track commands, a sample layer etc... The tracker view itself is too 1980. Personally I like the 80s.



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Posted 04 May 2015 - 09:14

Well, the time/future actually isn't the problem in this case, I guess. I'm just quite sure you just posted in the wrong universe, with a different reality. :D

Of course, i couldn't have explainesd it any clearer.  :badteeth:



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Posted 04 May 2015 - 11:40

@jurek: It's easy to get many interested,

but it has nothing to do with the unzoomable-text-spreadsheet-only display of note events that we've convinced ourselves is superior :c,

Just show them that you can have 12 (release issues aside) samples in monophony and can put any number of keytracked and velocity tracked filter envelopes on them.

 

Personally I think it would be cool if redux would act as a demo to renoise in rewire slave mode, you get so much more in renoise itself (tools quite importantly), so why stop at redux.

 

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 10:39

Jesus, how long will this take?



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 10:50

Jesus, how long will this take?

 

I'm not Jesus, but: As long as necessary in order to release a fine product.


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 12:11

Haha ok. Sorry. My impatience, you know...



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 13:12

Haha ok. Sorry. My impatience, you know...

Just pray he's not Moses.

because pray, and 40 years and promised land being mainly a desert, geddit? :D


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 13:23

Just pray he's not Moses.

because pray, and 40 years and promised land being mainly a desert, geddit? :D

You mean the guy that used a butterworth bandstop filter on the sea to make a dry path through it?


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 15:55

I'm not Jesus, but: As long as necessary in order to release a fine product.

 

You guys have a so good way of handling your community/customer eagerness for the product.

I love to see you devs./admins replying directly on the forum and with humor. You don't see that a lot on the other audio creation softwares...

I like that great way of releasing fine product with higher degree of achievement contrary to the contemporary philosophy of releasing stuff half functional.

 

Hail !! Renoise Team !!!


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 18:58

You guys have a so good way of handling your community/customer eagerness for the product.

I love to see you devs./admins replying directly on the forum and with humor. You don't see that a lot on the other audio creation softwares...

I like that great way of releasing fine product with higher degree of achievement contrary to the contemporary philosophy of releasing stuff half functional.

 

Hail !! Renoise Team !!!

 

This is what I love about the Renoise team and community! :)


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 22:25

You guys have a so good way of handling your community/customer eagerness for the product.

I love to see you devs./admins replying directly on the forum and with humor. You don't see that a lot on the other audio creation softwares...

I like that great way of releasing fine product with higher degree of achievement contrary to the contemporary philosophy of releasing stuff half functional.

 

Hail !! Renoise Team !!!

 

 

This is what I love about the Renoise team and community! :)

Fanboys!  :lol:


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 06:41

So forgive me if I'm asking some questions that have been answered already, I've looked through both of the active threads and these don't appear to have been asked.

 

1) I'm a week 2 Renoise customer. I see that it's been mentioned that features from Redux are going to be ported into Renoise as of the next version. Is that version likely to be version 3.x, or version 4? Given that you're at 3.01 I'd be pretty shocked if such a significant jump was made, but obviously I'm looking to get the most from my license so any reassurance would be cool.

 

2) As a Renoise user who doesn't use any other DAWs (if I wanted to use another DAW, I'd have bought it in the first place), should I expect to need to purchase Redux for feature X or should I expect to see feature X come to Renoise?

 

It seems like Redux is still being developed and therefore these questions might be difficult to answer, but anything would be cool.

 

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 09:30

A jump to 4.0 seems very unlikely to me from version history and what's been shared so far. On the other hand, it's been quite a long time since the last version, so maybe we're in for a shock. I think it's safe to say you should expect any feature that would clearly benefit it, to appear in Renoise without having to get Redux. But unless they always sync releases, I suppose you could have to wait for some time in some cases. You might still want Redux at some point even if Renoise is your only DAW, if using Redux within Renoise (assuming you can) offers something Renoise can't do by itself. Like (if only by one level initially) nesting phrases.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 11:23

@shaboogen: I think I can answer those questions

 

1. The next scheduled version of Renoise is 3.1 - you are definitely not going to see a bump all the way to 4.x.
If you take a look at the release notes jiko linked to, you'll see a tendency to introduce major new stuff, even with point releases.

 

2. Any new feature in Redux is making back it into Renoise as well.

So no, you won't have to buy Redux to get feature X. Generally speaking, we are trying to make them as unified as possible. 

This time around, Redux is released before Renoise catches up - so you won't be able to load new Redux patches in Renoise 3.0.1. But once a new Renoise is released, this won't be a problem. 


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 16:42

hhhggghhhh Just mentioning Renoise 3.1 makes me excited!



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Posted 07 May 2015 - 17:53

Any bets on when 3.1 will be released after redux?
my bet is less than 2 months


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 18:11

jump to 4.x would be insane because everyone would need to pay a buck to upgrade, and most likely many users  would abandon renoise  rather buy redux than upgrade renoise licence. so chill :))

 

im sure renoise features will be ported to redux, not vice versa, and most likely renoise update will come before redux, so users can report few bugs, and when when the devs deal with it will came redux at full force. 

 

this thing told me some local gipsy beggars, so trust me this info is solid!



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Posted 07 May 2015 - 19:08

@lolfail:
http://forum.renoise...e-7#entry327188
A huge amount of the work going into Redux will directly benefit the next version(s) of Renoise, which we intend to release soon after Redux itself



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Posted 08 May 2015 - 00:25

Any bets on when 3.1 will be released after redux?
my bet is less than 2 months


I expect it to be around 6-12 months.
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Posted 08 May 2015 - 00:43

and it will have full minority-report-style manipulation functionality. yay!

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 05:23

I expect it to be around 6-12 months.

 

Something like this probably, this year:
Redux: End of July

Renoise 3.1: Middle of Nov