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#51 spacedrone808

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 19:04

aero disabling? really?? Is this still 1995 ?

Yeap, I disabled this crap also. Shiny GUI not only decrease performance, but actually decrease a bit of working area of the screen.


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 20:24

Is aero still available in win10 as service?


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 12:28

​No information. I am using Win7.


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 16:24

mid-2015 MBP, 2.8 Ghz i7, 8 cores, onboard sound, 10ms – 216 RPTS (it started stuttering a bit around 175 or so)

 

I upped it to 48khz and it's 192 RPTS.

 

44.1khz and 93ms latency (max on my system) = 254 RPTS


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Posted 01 December 2017 - 19:41

i7 6800K (6-cores) @3.4Ghz, 16Gb Ram, Win10 Pro 64-bit, ASIO driver with Komplete Audio 6 audio interface, sample rate 44100, buffer size 192 samples : 226RPTS.

It seems a decent gaming pc makes for a decent Renoise pc as well. smile.png


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 09:16

Thanks for the benchmark, that was an interesting one! I´ve used the 256 one on a Threadripper 1950X (16 cores / 32 threads) overclocked to 3.95 GHz and P-States disabled (always running at 3.95 GHz, no downclocking - most important for Renoise as it does not up-clock if Renoise puts a load on the CPU, whyever that is, but others have reported it here too with other CPUs) and your recommended settings (DirectSound / 10ms, etc.).

 

32 threads (16 cores) @ 10ms DirectSound = 256 (CPU usage on last pattern is 50%)

 

1 thread @ 10ms DirectSound = 52

 

Cheeeers :-)


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 13:05

Nice, Threadripper seems to be a real multicore monster. But my single core performance still outperforms you, which is kinda sad, since I use a i7 4770 (now already old). What kind of audio interface do you use, and did you set the windows power profile to "desktop"?


Edited by ffx, 05 December 2017 - 13:05.

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 20:42

@ffx Yes, naturally the I7´s, especially newer ones (though generation 4 like yours should not really be faster, only if it´s overclocked), are a bit faster on a per-core base (that's also the same in all other benchmarks), but they have only a few of those, that's the problem and the reason why I´ve gone with AMD this time (always been on Intel before, the last AMD I had was an Athlon XP, haha). Curious though, how many patterns can you do on a single core on yours at 10ms DirectSound? I was on a I7 3770K before, overclocked to 4,4 GHz, and the single core performance is exactly the same like on my new Threadripper 1950X (overclocked to 3962 MHz). I don´t think it´s sad to have 16 real cores of this caliber, haha and the single core performance on the TR 1950X is more than enough to run a single VSTi + a huge processing chain (this is the maximum that is concentrated on one core in the worst case as it needs serial processing Instrument -> Effects) even at 88200 Hz (that´s what I am using these days as many VSTi´s sound better aliasing wise than at 44100 Hz), but I can now run at least 16 VSTi´s + their processing on that CPU without any of those colliding for processing power + the 16 extra HT threads which bring a little extra room too. In fact my current song (solely using VSTi´s and VST´s goes to a max CPU load of 60% in the chorus section, that is with about 6 VSTis going and each VSTi having processing without 5 effects on the chain). And all of that for a very nice bang for the buck on that CPU, compared to what Intel had to offer right now. I don´t game on this machine, so more cores = more VSTi´s is what it is for me, regardless if the single cores are a bit slower. You could also go for an AMD Epyc with 32 cores and 64 threads, the single core performance is even slower than (as it is with Intels XEONs), but it would again fit my usage scenario and would allow me even more plugin instances, but for now, I am rather happy as I am not maxing out my current setup at all.

 

No, I am using my custom power plan which, apart from having all energy savings turned off, has some extra settings that usually cant be changed at all, like how many cores go for core-parking and under which load, which strategy for re-activating them, etc., I am sys-admin in real life and do this stuff day in and day out, so I am running a highly customized Win 10 with almost everything ripped out (www.ntlite.com) too. Anyhow, P-States are disabled too for Renoise, hence the CPU always runs at 3962 MHz (the max I could get without having to boost voltage EXTREMELY higher, which I did not want as I wanted to keep this as energy efficient as possible). So that should not stop it from reaching higher results. I also specially selected DirectSound and 10ms, with ASIO and 7ms I can make it until pattern 56, not a huge difference though.

 

My audio interface is my old beloved E-MU 0404 USB, never found any more modern interface with better converters and op-amps (in or out) yet, and RightMark AudioAnalyzer comes to the same conclusion as well:-) OK, some current cards from Lynx are up-to-par, but cost $1000, while this one did cost me $70 on eBay 3 years ago ;) Here are the RightMark results for my one:

 

Summary Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz), dB

+0.02, -0.06
Excellent

Noise level, dB (A)

-113.4
Excellent

Dynamic range, dB (A)

113.4
Excellent

THD, %

0.0009
Excellent

THD + Noise, dB (A)

-97.2
Excellent

IMD + Noise, %

0.0012
Excellent

Stereo crosstalk, dB

-109.9
Excellent

IMD at 10 kHz, %

0.0013
Excellent

General performance

 
Excellent
 

 

 

 

I was using a Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 Interface before, much more current and should hence be much better (you´d think), the results there looked like this:

 

 

Summary Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz), dB

+0.03, -0.25
Very good

Noise level, dB (A)

-94.1
Very good

Dynamic range, dB (A)

94.1
Very good

THD, %

0.011
Good

THD + Noise, dB (A)

-74.7
Average

IMD + Noise, %

0.023
Good

Stereo crosstalk, dB

-91.6
Excellent

IMD at 10 kHz, %

0.018
Very good

General performance

 
Very good

Edited by speedraver, 05 December 2017 - 21:18.


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 23:41

Hm then I think the surprising difference for one core is caused by the type of audio interface: USB still has serious amount of cpu overhead, while I use firewire (on macos), which has very little overhead. I set my cpu timing to "turbo" in the bios, I don't know if that means overclocked, but it shows the cpu type typical frequencies in the OS.

 

I think next time I really will buy such an AMD cpu. Also supported by hackintosh btw.


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:11

Hehe, who knows what they come up with next at AMD... And really, it is not surprising at all, as I´ve mentioned, the single core speed of the TR 1950X is equal to the I7 4XXX CPUs, just that you get 16 cores + 16 HT threads on the TR 1950X compared to "just" 4 or 6 (8 / 12) on the I7 CPUs :-) Also, there are differences in the compiler/efficiency how certain commands are translated for the CPU (and AMD Threadripper is not fully supported by the compilers yet, so as soon as this happens, speeds will get even better too). But you can hunt me with anything *tosh, I am all Windows and hate MAC´s + Apple, haha :-)


Edited by speedraver, 06 December 2017 - 04:14.