Mitch Murder Bass Sound

In this Renoise video Mitch Murder has a slap bass sound that sounds impossible to achieve with digital hardware. Is this a sample or heavy effects on Synth1? How do I get this slap bass sound. There’s also some funky sound with the bass where it sounds like he’s playing reverse notes maybe (Com Truise uses the same style).

How do I do this bass?

https://youtu.be/8dhWlmxkIqQ?t=12

Bass sounds like some of the Korg M1 basses (he has an M1 loaded in an instrument slot but it’s not the bass sound). If it’s from an M1, it’s sample-based. Though I can get a very similar sound on the JX-10 if I run it through an amp/cab emulator…

In this Renoise video Mitch Murder has a slap bass sound that sounds impossible to achieve with digital hardware. Is this a sample or heavy effects on Synth1? How do I get this slap bass sound. There’s also some funky sound with the bass where it sounds like he’s playing reverse notes maybe (Com Truise uses the same style).

How do I do this bass?

https://youtu.be/8dhWlmxkIqQ?t=12

he says in the comments that he only uses software and has no interest for hardware synths.

my vote is sylenth1, but you can actually see some of his instrument list in the video, he apparently uses the korg legacy collection, zebra2, albino,… a commenter guessed it was the polysix.

i like hardware synths :blink:

for me this mitch bass sounds like a fm bass, you would soon find if installing dexed vst (dx7 emulator) and installing free sounds sets/sysex files from dx7 (looking for “bass” presets). But mitch seems to use quite a lot resonance in his bass, so maybe he just used a virtual analog for it, or added resonance to a fm bass sample (since usually dx7 has no resonance at all).

on the other hand imo you shouldn’t look so much to achieve identical sound, since this video from 2010 already quite sounds like mitch’s sound signature. instead you should try to find your own :slight_smile:

Over on the other channel -> https://forum.renoise.com/t/open-hihat-sounds-horrible-what-to-do/44171 I give a simple possible synth bass example :slight_smile:

The original sound is from a DX7 and is preset BASS 1 which is emulated in FM7 or FM8 and was also used in this monster tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E

Hehe, what’s so very special about this bass sound? The bus compressor on the bass channel that’s always below threshold though the knee is to zero db?

It sounds to me like: an FM type synth (or sample) with some subtle movement, through some juicy bandpass filter with resonance. Bandpass I think because the sharp attacks don’t seem to have the boom of the more bassy sections of the sound on them. And also because it seems to let through harmonics above the resonance, so a pretty wide and not strong bandpass. Maybe also the resonance is tied to the actual cutoff position, so the higher cutoffs (slap attacks) get sharp, but not when the envelope gets to the bassy freqs, then resonance is maybe lower. The filter is driven by adsr, and the adsr or base cutoff is somehow automated (maybe even manual recorded as liveley as it seems) but you can’t see that in the vid from the pattern data. Also the sound seems driven through stereo modulation, i.e. clever chorusing and stereo delay, to give depth, wobble, organic fat feel. I can’t spot any “reverse notes”, but with such an setup you could just play with the adsr with proper long attack, no decay and sustain at max for those notes to fake it (and automate this by hand to make it a deliberate choice and reliable in timing).

Maybe start with this if you wish a similliar sound. What synth or sample or filter you use is probably not so important, as long as the base sound and the filter envelopes come close enough for the rough feeling.