Windows 10 - Renoise + Asio4All 64bit - crashes a lot!

Hello, i use Asio (or WASAPI, but Renoise doesnt support that) in Reaper and other DAWs. Everything is allright there.
If i use ASIO with Renoise, i select it. Than i want to switch a soundcard (from integrated to usb) and Renoise crashes. Everytime i open renoise after that, it crashes in moment i select Asio (it is not saved because of crash)
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I dont have this problem with any other DAW or with any different version of Windows :-).

I ve tried last three Asio version, no changes…

What is in the log file?

Help->Show the log file …

Beggining of file:

eleased the active Audio-Device

Shut down: Destroyed the Player

Shut down: Destroyed the Document

GraphPort: Releasing DirectX…

Shut down: Destroyed the GraphPort

Shut down: Saving the Preferences

Shut down: Destroyed the Preferences

Shut down: App is down

Application: Exit OK

VstPlugs: Releasing D:\Vstplugins\dpMeter\64\dpMeter x64.dll…

VstPlugs: D:\Vstplugins\dpMeter\64\dpMeter x64.dll was released

VstPlugs: Releasing D:\Vstplugins\OvertoneDSP\RVB500.dll…

VstPlugs: D:\Vstplugins\OvertoneDSP\RVB500.dll was released

VstPlugs: Releasing D:\Vstplugins\Sanford\SanfordReverb\SanfordReverb.dll…

VstPlugs: D:\Vstplugins\Sanford\SanfordReverb\SanfordReverb.dll was released

VstPlugs: Releasing D:\Vstplugins\NI\Reaktor 6.dll…

VstPlugs: D:\Vstplugins\NI\Reaktor 6.dll was released

Application: Finalizing the API…

Closing log file…

End of file:

Application: Successfully loaded ‘krystof 9.xrns’.

ASIO: Stop Polling…

ASIO: Releasing ASIO4ALL v2…

ASIO: Initializing

ASIO: Trying to open ‘ASIO4ALL v2’

ASIO: LoadAsioDriver … OK

ASIO: ASIOInit … OK

ASIO: Using SampleRate 44100

ASIO: PostOutput is not supported

ASIO: FillDriverInfo … OK

ASIO: InputBuffers: 2 available, 2 selected - Type 18

ASIO: OutputBuffers: 2 available, 2 selected - Type 18

ASIO: OutputLatency: 732, InputLatency: 0

ASIO: CreateBuffers … OK

ASIO: ASIOStart … OK

ASIO: Up and running

ASIO: Applying kAsioResetRequest

ASIO: Stop Polling…

ASIO: Releasing ASIO4ALL v2…

ASIO: Initializing

ASIO: Trying to open ‘ASIO4ALL v2’

ASIO: LoadAsioDriver … OK

ASIO: ASIOInit … OK

ASIO: Using SampleRate 44100

ASIO: PostOutput is not supported

ASIO: FillDriverInfo … OK

ASIO: Ignoring kAsioResetRequest

ASIO: InputBuffers: 2 available, 2 selected - Type 18

ASIO: OutputBuffers: 4 available, 4 selected - Type 18

ASIO: OutputLatency: 732, InputLatency: 544

ASIO: CreateBuffers … OK

ASIO: ASIOStart … OK

ASIO: Up and running

ASIO4All on Windows 10 (64bit only) seems to be the problem here. Some configurations randomly crash down ASIO4All here. Will try to find out more info and send it to the ASIO4All crew.

Yeah ive never had similar problem with renoise before windows 10

on the other hand, Reaper doesnt have this problem

There’s always FL studio’s asio driver (install fl studio demo, uninstall the demo) and Steinberg’s generic asio driver, you could try those.

I use generic one, other works no better as i know.

btw once renoise crashes it cant be opened until i unplug my usb card and force asio to use integrated intel sound card

It would be great if Renoise could use WASAPI as almost any host right now

Something new?

Renoise crashes always when i switrch internal soundcard into usb soundcard in asio.

Tracktion crashes often, not always.

Reaper is usually stable with the same asio.