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#26 2 daze j

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 00:10

Strengths

 

  • Programming beats that I have a fair understanding of into the pattern editor - hip hop, pop, rock, disco, reggae, and mixing and matching these type of beats to come up with unique rhythms
  • Programming certain types of synth parts - chord and arpeggio based into the pattern editor.
  • Sampling my sound design/rendering my vst to renoise instruments.  (I am not adding this as a program feature)  There are certain things I am doing here - layering drums, layering base, making sure certain synth parts that may have many modulation parameters are played back in the way in which I intend
  • Song arrangement.   I absolutely love the arranger of the program.  (also a program feature, but not me trying to cheat the topic)  You can get good at using the feature.  I think it is brilliant and it works for me very well.

 

Weaknesses

 

  • Programming beats I do not understand.  I would love to be a, "break maestro," of which I am not.  When I listen to some of you who are making bad ass breaks, I am just floored.  Like, "wow!"   Also, I wish I was a little better, or even, "good at all," at techno, jungle, d n b.
  • doofers, meta devices, fx chains, saving renoise instruments and building libraries of things to use again in other tracks.
  • pattern fx commands.   I am used to delay, velocity, and pan.   but the sample fx commands still a little tricky
  • haven't actually used phrases yet.
  • still a little weak with audio and midi routing
  • automation - a lot of the movement in my tracks doesn't come from automation.  I'm all about the synth's mod matrix

 

This by the way is a really great topic

 

 

Cheers to you all


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Posted 04 May 2018 - 15:10

 

  • pattern fx commands.   I am used to delay, velocity, and pan.   but the sample fx commands still a little tricky

This is imo worth investing your time to learn as they are pretty essential and shouldn't be that hard to wrap your head around. And if you're not sure how an effect command works it doesn't hurt to ask on the forum. ;)

 

 

My strenghts is that i'm quite creative, or at least i like to think so.

Even if it's not the greatest stuff i make all the time i make something all the time.

I think i'd fall into the category of 'Renoise addicts', i know the most essential and a bit more, could probably make a track with blindfolds if had to.

 

 

My weaknesses is that i very often over do stuff, where i should have taken it easy i instead pushes things to the limit and ruins the dynamics.

I'm very impatient when it comes to mixing and mastering, i like working with effects and such, but to make everything fit into the mix is not my greatest trait. 

I suck horribly at replicating sounds and genre styles and whatever. I really like the creative part of making music, but replicating stuff, that is more like boring work to me. I can add a reference track to my project and then after a few hours i'm working on something competely different.

Subtleness is not my strongest trait, when i focus on it i can sometimes overcome it a bit, but usually i step on it.

I'm not very good at timing and not the greatest beat programmer, i can sometimes fool a noob, but i won't fool the maestros. I'm not totally green, but this is related to the previously mentioned weaknesses, i'm a bit like Ed Wood.

That's a wrap! :D


Edited by TheBellows, 04 May 2018 - 15:12.

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 17:32

It is psychological thing... because renoise is micro oriented and you cant zoom out i create detailed loops not long sequences. i dont leave spaces and my compositions are usually very "tight", no pauses, no silence, just a lot of sounds. I dont have this problem with traditional daws where i create long minimalistic beats. I tried to connect redux and reaper but then i cant sequence vsti via tracker view and rewire has its flaws. 

 

I'm really the same way as you, I totally get this.  Renoise feels so "zoomed in" that I spend all my time with it building very focused elaborate individual patterns, but then have a lot of trouble arranging those patterns into a meaningful whole a lot of the time.

 

The pattern sequencer is certainly an incredibly useful tool for arranging, no doubt. And I also really like Renoise's automation, the fact that the automation (by default) always scales to the specific pattern makes it in some ways more tightly organized than in traditional DAWs. But despite these strengths, my mind still struggles with arrangement on a macro-level. It's probably not Renoise's fault, and just my own training with "traditional" DAW timelines. 

 

So, to answer the OP's question, for me it's the same:

 

Strength -- building elaborate, syncopated sequences making extensive use of instrument modulation sets / effects chains, automation, and large handfuls of devices. 

 

Weakness - arranging those sequences into a meaningful whole


Edited by m.arthur, 04 May 2018 - 17:32.

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 21:18

This is imo worth investing your time to learn as they are pretty essential and shouldn't be that hard to wrap your head around. And if you're not sure how an effect command works it doesn't hurt to ask on the forum. ;)

 

 

I'm getting there.   I have more pattern fx commands in the song I'm working on right now, than I have ever had in my whole time using Renoise.

 

You know, last night I was thinking to myself, "when I started producing, everything was a vst synth.  Now, everything is a sample - something rendered to audio."

​Ya know what I mean?


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