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#1 gentleclockdivider

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 15:15

I get an awfull lot of hanging midi notes when using the phrase editor , moderate lpb and no note delays and every note has a note off .

Used lpb 8 

Even happens when playing from the gui keyboard .

 

Very simple pattern  lpb8  , 2 note pattern  +note off's ,  1octave apart ...is enough for hanging notes.

 

 

Copying the phrase data to the pattern ., thus exact data .;doesn't reproduce the midi hang ups ..

Throwing a lot of midi data/fast playing from the pattern editor  will give the occasional midi hang up , as with most midi gear .

The phrase editor behaves totally eratic when it comes to sending note off 's

 

 

Edirol ua 25 audio midi interface ----> nordmodular 

                                                            ymaha a4000 

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 15:51

O.K.to make sure it's the phrase editor / midi combination  .

Fl studio sending lightning fast midi arpergiator data ,  midi note echo pitch effects  ----> no hick ups ;

Reaper js megababy sequencer ----> no hick ups ;

 

 

Last test to rule everything out .

I set my sampler to MONO ..playing 2 successive notes in the phrase editor C3.....C4 ..a simple octaved pattern ...bam .;midi hang when playing the phrase across the keyboard .

 

 

The  Reason I think the phrase editor is having problems with midi is  because it's  data is NOT send directly to the midi out , since the phrase editor is nested within renoise causing eratic behaviour ...is this true ?


Edited by gentleclockdivider, 08 September 2016 - 16:26.

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 16:13

We've managed to reproduce some hanging notes here, so we'll have to look into it more deeply. Thanks for reporting.

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 18:26

thanks , at the moment the phrase editor is unusable for real time playing / midi out .

 

@ developers ...how is the phrase editor handling/sending  midi out  data ...directly or  nested within renoise   , probably the wrong terminology ...but I am not a  coder .


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Posted 10 September 2016 - 15:06

We've managed to reproduce some hanging notes here, so we'll have to look into it more deeply. Thanks for reporting.

 

Been testing now on renoise 3.0 ..and oddly ..there are almost no hanging notes , when realtime playing /transposing phrase from computer keyboard 

Maybe the redesign of the phrase editor has something to do with ?

Dblue , could you please tell how the phrase editor has been implemented in 3.1 ( in laymans terms ) , is it using some work around to  send midi out ?

I remember some changes have been made during the beta for controll cc parameters maybe it has something to do with it..;dunno 

http://forum.renoise...str-vol/ please


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Posted 10 September 2016 - 15:50

and some more testing on 3.1 .

IT seems that the hanging notes occur when ext.mid. mode is selected .

Almost no hanging notes when'  line in mode is selected  .

 

I renoise 3.0..both modes operate smoothly .

 

So it's ren.3.1 specific , when ext.mid .is used ..

 

 

Need some more testing


Edited by gentleclockdivider, 10 September 2016 - 16:03.

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