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#1 oneunkind

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Posted 10 September 2016 - 01:42

and no cheating like 'mine is renoise' or 'mine is my modular'.

 

 

maybe, mine is a kawai r-100. maybe not even the sounds, always, but the sequencer.

 

do you have samples? gimme!

 

or ok, cheat?

 

i'll put some samples....

 

eh, nah, message me and i'll send em if you want, 70 samples from the r-100. i dunno about uploading them here.


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Posted 10 September 2016 - 05:10

It's kind of a cliche sound by now like the TR machines but I love the DMX. Never owned one but had use of one for a long time at one point and sampled the hell out of it. Will be in a Renoise library I'm doing.


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Posted 11 September 2016 - 21:16

I can create almost any sound with the nord modular G1..and my selfmade clonetonic ensemble ( reaktor )

The nord modular's built in mulit purpose drummachine is not wonderfull ...but get things done .

The kick osc/module ; is amazing ...it can go verry low and has a nice transient ( if wanted ) .

Modules enough in the nord modular to design any kind of drumsound . 

 

BUt if I had to choose ..I would go for  the 808 ...


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Posted 12 September 2016 - 10:54

The best 909 / 808 clone I found so far is Audiorealism ADM. Never used it, but once made lot of comparison tests, though I did not test for exact original device behaviour, but instead for the best sound. Imo ADM sounds better than original :P
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Posted 12 September 2016 - 12:50

my top-to-bottom list: 808, 909, 606, 707, 505 <--- yay, that's the one i got :P


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Posted 12 September 2016 - 13:41

The best 909 / 808 clone I found so far is Audiorealism ADM. Never used it, but once made lot of comparison tests, though I did not test for exact original device behaviour, but instead for the best sound. Imo ADM sounds better than original :P

adm is nice , but I disagree when it comes to the emulating part .

D16 drumazon is the closest , the 909 is almost spot on ...

Also , renoise is fantastic ...create a long dc sample' 88200 samples )  , process track fx set to highpass and resonance , choose freq.cut of and process fx ..a nice self oscilating sine ..+small pitch env..

Then ad a single cycle transient ( nonlooped ) and mix it with the above ...add a bit of noise ...et voila ..


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 14:27

606 ,  : p

Genuine one

 

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 22:34

I love the 606!

 

But, I've really been trying to get together some good pcm drums.  You know, punchy short real drum samples that still have some major drum machine/electronic vibe. Some of them sound great but often not so much.  One box might have good hats and great toms and everything else is medium or bad. 

 

I thought I could process some acoustic drum samples into an 80s style kit that I like but it's just not as easy as it seems, for me.


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 14:43

I don't guess it goes with the topic 100%, but, a neat trick when sampling analog drums that sometimes spit out a large initial transient that doesn't seem to do much beside screw up attempts to get the boom loud enough is to press the dc fixer thing until the waveform looks good for maximizing.  I mean, yeah, yeah, you could probably do some extreme filtering or clipping or compression but i find this works pretty well without making noticeable timbral changes.


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 14:55

my top-to-bottom list: 808, 909, 606, 707, 505 <--- yay, that's the one i got :P

 

oh, i finally checked out some 505 demos and.. yeah, that's the sound without being stupidly expensive.  Thanks. I don't guess you can pitch the samples in the box, though? is ok, i only need samples... ~googles~


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Posted 21 September 2016 - 08:21

oh, i finally checked out some 505 demos and.. yeah, that's the sound without being stupidly expensive.  Thanks. I don't guess you can pitch the samples in the box, though? is ok, i only need samples... ~googles~

You're right, no pitching possible in the box (without modding/circuit bending it). In fact, the only thing you can modify is volume and pan per sample  ^_^ 
The kick and snare are good though, very classic, I think they are almost exact like on the 707.


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 17:23

Microtonic


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 20:20

ADM is fun
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 01:15

Roland R-70 - very good Pads for Fingerdrumming, better as Akai

Yamaha Ry-30 - flexibel and nice Sound

     

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 13:56

nord drum 2, korg er-1, sonic potions lxr


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 18:35

 

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 17:20

I've been in love with the 909 since the 80's.
I still can't get enough of it.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 17:30

I have to say 808.

 

I hate the kick drum, but the electric cowbell really makes up for it.

 

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 08:18

I have to say 808.

 

I hate the kick drum, but the electric cowbell really makes up for it.

 

EDIT:

 

you're right. ig 808 is rly the best ever. so much for rebellion...


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 23:28

Tempest looked pretty cool, but really, drum machines are good for fattening breakbeat samples by layering, rather than on their own I'd say.

Drum machines still dont do drums well imo. Real darbuka or calabash will make any electronic beat sound nicer.



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Posted 23 June 2018 - 12:21

Yes i like the the Tempest too

 

Emu XL-7 still a beauty  (in my opinion a great design for a drumachine / groovebox)

 

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 15:21

Quite interesting to see the way these manufacturers set up the effects for their drum machines.

Good to take a look at and try to recreate in renoise.

 

Real drum recordings ( chopped breakbeat, single hits ) sound so much better than drum machine sounds only in my opinion.

I will admit, breakbeat samples do sound much fatter when layered with synthetic drum sounds. A mix of both is good.

 

Synthesized snares never sound that good, unless they are layered with samples from a real snare.

 

Even physical modelling snares dont come close. They are not expressive enough. Too static and mechanical.

Think of all the variables going on inside a real snare ( diameter, depth, skin material, material of body, tuning, hardness/softness of hit, type of mallet, angle of strike, springs in snare etc..). On a real snare every time its hit its a slightly different sound. So much variation ( same with all drums ). Real drums and therefore samples of real drums stilll much better than synthetic drums, maybe always will be ( but synthetic drums layered underneath do add fatness, it has to be said ). Even heavy metal and rock drummers use synthetic drum machine sounds layered with their drums ( with the use of triggers ).

 

Playing drums or pads of drum machines in real time is more fun to watch too.

A lot of trap music really is annoying with all those synthetic hihats.

Sounds like its designed to be a loud annoying ringtone.

Plus the MC's are wack these days, not saying anything and cant rhyme.

Its all 'ten crack commandents' recycled over and over.

I have to admit I do like the mix of FM hats and real hihats in a tune tho.


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Posted 09 July 2018 - 10:36

I like 808 - however I have only experienced it through samples.

 

I used to have Korg ER-1 - digital drum-synth.



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Posted 21 September 2018 - 07:32

KVLT Drums

Refreshingly different, at the moment my Fav.

Interview https://www.audiopluginguy.com/interview-ron-might-get-loud/


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Posted 21 September 2018 - 17:23

My fav is definitely the Roland R-8.

 

Especially what Autechre did with it...see 'Flutter,' among many others they used it on.

 

They also used it as a controller for playing their synths, etc. The R-8 has velocity-sensitive pads so it can be very expressive.

 

Doing pitch effects on the core sounds gets you halfway there...

 

amazing box. also great for industrial music!

 

 

2nd fav is definitely the classic 606, again probably because I'm a junkie for 90s IDM.


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