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#1 Redman

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 01:56

Made this today, spent pretty much most of the day at it, at the expese of other work  :P

 

Anyway's If you do give it a listen, and have the time could you hit me with some criticism please. I'm not to confident with my mixing and mastering, I do give it my best, but some outside ears would be helpfull for learning my downfalls and what could be fixed, cause my ears are shagged from listening to the track on repeat.

 

Cheers in advance

 


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 16:35

Let me have a try:

 

I think the transition around 1:00 is going to fast. Maybe double or triple it and add a transition drum break before the next part kicks in could sound a bit more interesting?

Maybe a delay/echo effect 2:17, the effect there sounds a bit out of place.

The main parts sounds allright, but maybe there is a bit too much going on at the same time or maybe it could use a bit more variation? I think by letting it open up here and there and maybe minimalizing and alternating the use of the various instruments could make it a bit more fluid/dynamic.  

Drums could have more variations and breaks to define the transitions to new elements in the track.

 

All in all it's a nice track and the mix is quite good. It sounds like music for a promotional/demonstration/training video or something similar, not the most catchy and memorable track, but could work well in the background.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 17:19

Thanks for the feedback TheBellows. Really helps  :walkman:


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 16:39

I can't really comment Redman on the mix as such because I'm not a mixing/mastering expert, plus I use headphones..  But I can tell you what I expected to happen (but this is just my personal preference).  I expected a change of chord.  A similar thing happens in say the demo tune in Renoise that dblue did called 'Tension'.  In that demo tune he has a long section(s) without really changing the base chord (because that seems to be 'the style' and adds to the 'tension'.)  He has a nice arp riding over the top of a lot of sound FX.  But even dblue has to start changing the chord at say patterns 19 & 20.

 

If I was asking the question 'how is my mixing?' I'd probably do what Raegae did in this thread -> http://forum.renoise...-in-mastering/ Which is to post the xrns (yes yes I know it is not always possible because of VST's,size etc..  But I would limit myself to just samples (small size) and Renoise native fx.)  Maybe someone would come along and mess about with it and then you could compare :)


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 17:41

Hi Redman, I liked the track, it held my interest and it sounds good. I don't think you need to worry about your mixing, it sounded fine to me, nothing sounded out of balance instrumentally and the EQ is pleasing. Definitely take a break every once in a while though, it's a fact that your ears do get tired and you lose your judgement. Keep plugging away, you're good.


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 11:02

nice. getting an Enigma vibe here. :)


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 22:55

Sorry for the late reply guys. I completely forgot to check up on this post. 

 

 

If I was asking the question 'how is my mixing?' I'd probably do what Raegae did in this thread -> http://forum.renoise...-in-mastering/ Which is to post the xrns (yes yes I know it is not always possible because of VST's,size etc..  But I would limit myself to just samples (small size) and Renoise native fx.)  Maybe someone would come along and mess about with it and then you could compare :)

 

Never actually thought to share the xrns file. That's a great idea 4tey, I'll have to go back and review it as I haven't actually looked at since I posted it here. Usually my workflows are quite a mess, with dsp, doofers, and fx strung all over the place  :P If it's not too much of a mess, I'll post it up. Otherwise I think I might wait and share a newer more organised song. I've only recently begun to actually organize all this stuff because it was getting to hard to keep track of it all, making it hard to return to the original file without getting lost. I'll definitely post something in the future. It'd be great to get a tweaked comparison.

 

 

I can't really comment Redman on the mix as such because I'm not a mixing/mastering expert, plus I use headphones..  But I can tell you what I expected to happen (but this is just my personal preference).  I expected a change of chord. 

 

Ok so more advancement in arrangement. Cool.  :) Just started reading up on music theory so I'll be working on chord progressions, harmonies, and all that stuff now. Then apply it to some new tracks. Thanks 4tey.

 

 

Hi Redman, I liked the track, it held my interest and it sounds good. I don't think you need to worry about your mixing, it sounded fine to me, nothing sounded out of balance instrumentally and the EQ is pleasing. Definitely take a break every once in a while though, it's a fact that your ears do get tired and you lose your judgement. Keep plugging away, you're good.

 

Thanks Rick. Glad to hear that the EQ sounded ok. That was one of my concerns, been trying to focus on it lately, and get things sounding nice not just to my ears but to the ears of others as well.  :)  

 

nice. getting an Enigma vibe here. :)

 

Thanks Heartbeat. Glad you liked it man.  :)  P.s As a graphic designer, if have to say I like you new logo design, looks real slick.


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Posted 07 December 2016 - 19:27

I like the track how it is. Also no expert here. Sounds to me like solid ambient / lounge music, really nice. Maybe the intro high pass is too long and though feeling a bit weak? Instead varying the chord, maybe you could minimally varying the deep back bass starting at 1:00 by one note sometimes (I don't know if it's hall tail resonances from kick though)? Also that deep bass has IMO too much reverb or feedback? Maybe even dry better? So it would not sound so resonating and washed out in the deep... And maybe mono...


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