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#1 Roppenzo

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 03:10

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 03:47

Actually we are not sure if Renoise development is dead, because nothing official has been stated.

 

Anyway,

 

In my case, I like Renoise, I use it completely to produce my music and it is the only DAW I use right now.

 

Given its current set of features, I think I will need a lot of years to learn how to use them all, so, actually it does not matter if the Renoise guys release new stuff or not soon: We can still produce tons of music using what we have right now.

 

Keep Renoise-ing :)


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 07:41

if u heavily depends on modulations(use tons of automations) then Bitwig, otherwise Reaper, Reaper supports ReWrite perfectly so can keep use Renoise beside it, Bitwig hasn't got it

 

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in Reaper u gonna need Redux as fx unit if u need quick fx parallelization, it's PITA without it, so if u not want to use Renoise anymore then I would check Bitwig first then Reaper second, otherwise Reaper first


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 08:33

An update has been confirmed so I don't think it's dead. Did i miss something?


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 08:40

I never do not understand people who require annual updates. Why you dont want new update for your guitar?


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 09:53

I never do not understand people who require annual updates. Why you dont want new update for your guitar?

it would be sooo nice http://forum.renoise...or/#entry352051 currently I really miss this group automation editing, and the Push support and the audio track feature and a .... :)


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 10:19

See what audiomulch feels like


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 10:39

New developments or not, now I have made the switch... Renoise 4 lyfe!

 

 

Oh and cat pics, always the cat pics...

 

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:P Hehe jks.


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 11:47

Well, there is a bug fix version. No need that Taktik to enter the forums to confirm. You can see it here: http://forum.renoise...ding-bug-fixes/

 

Since January 16, 2016:

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I include the dates. Yes, they are only a handful of bugs fixed. But they clearly indicate that Renoise is not dead. It is still developing, improving. Supposedly, an error correction version will arrive (Renoise v3.1.1, supposedly). Surely, something else will be included so as not to disappoint, but it will be very little (supposedly). It is assumed that we know the slow development of Renoise. For years. So nothing new. Maybe, within a year we will see a version 3.2 (supposedly), with important additions.

 

If they find some error or believe that the behavior of Renoise in some subject is not the correct, warn the developer here: http://forum.renoise...p-support-bugs/. As you see, Renoise's team continues to work, fulfilling the contract with its customers.

 

Look at the things that have been fixed. Some are not bugs, they are missing behaviors...

 

...

 

For my part, I have tried Ableton and FLStudio. FLStudio seems to very good DAW, it has improved bestiality with version 12 and its continuous corrections.. Ableton I do not like, for many reasons. Personally, I would buy a Cubase 8 license, but it is very expensive. Cubase is very well focused to compose soundtracks and big orchestra, which is what I like the most. It is a great alternative, the first, against ProTools. Protools I do not recommend it, It's for professionals, with the pocket very full.

 

If you do not want to ruin your licenses, I recommend FLStudio, or Bitwing (still a little green). However, for several reasons, I use Renoise. I think DAW looks better than others that double or triple their price. These are bigger words. Although renoise is a long way from being a perfect DAW, and many things still to be developed, version 3.1 is fine. There is no reason to flake. Unless you do not like to compose using a tracker.

 

Just a reflection. Renoise 3.1 is the best version of Renoise until now. He has not reached one year of life. Do you want to abandon it already?

 

I hope it helps!

 

@Roppenzo, cheer up a little, man!  :drummer:  :guitar:  :clownstep: There is nothing worse than not feeling comfortable with your DAW. Try other DAWs before deciding and learn more about Renoise and their capabilities. It may take a surprise and return to Renoise...


Edited by Raul (ulneiz), 02 December 2016 - 11:48.


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 12:02

New developments or not, now I have made the switch... Renoise 4 lyfe!

 

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 12:27

https://ardour.org/

 

It's cross platform nowadays. Still no decent sequencer though.

I use it to mixdown stuff done in Renoise and to load LV2 effects


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 12:31

Yeah, Bitwig, Reaper are both good daw
but i was also very surprised by Tracktion, it has very fast workflow but not so good midi editor so i've tried other DAWs

and

i was very surprised by Mixcraft DAW, it has amazing workflow but not so many functions
it kinda reminds me old logic or Cubase, conservative but very good daw for musicians who wanna play their instruments by their midi keyboard
It has also amazing clip launcher, better than bitwig and reaper doesnt have it.
It is kinda opposite of Renoise and new version will be soon out.

this is daw i would use right now besides Renoise 
the second adept is Studio one...



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 14:14

https://ardour.org/

 

It's cross platform nowadays. Still no decent sequencer though.

I use it to mixdown stuff done in Renoise and to load LV2 effects

 

Thank you for this!  ^_^



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 15:40

i was very surprised by Mixcraft DAW, it has amazing workflow but not so many functions


Hmm that looks interesting :walkman: thanks for that one!


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 18:01

I never do not understand people who require annual updates. Why you dont want new update for your guitar?

 

Sometimes software is pretty much done.  

 

I'd rather the Renoise devs give serious thought before adding features or changing things rather than pushing out gratuitous "updates" just to give some bogus impression of being "fresh".



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 18:14

Renoise development is dead.


You're absolutely wrong, but nevertheless we do wish you luck in your search for another host that allows you to get funky.

Making music is the most important thing here, after all.

It doesn't really matter how you do it, or what tools you use, it's only important that you do it.

Cheers.
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Posted 02 December 2016 - 18:49

Let's face it.. Renoise development is dead.

So.. Do any of you die-hard renoise fans/users had/have great experiences with other daws?

I've already tried ableton and fl studio.. not my cup of tea..

Still mixin' stuff with ACID Pro..


Your opinions on Reason, Reaper, Tracktion, Bitwig etc?

the cons and pros? what felt the most like Renoise?

 

I personally think the greatest combo available today is: Renoise 3.1 as rewire master controlling Reason 9 as rewire slave

 

This is my primary setup these days, because it's so damn convenient to just grab and record everything (notes, midi data, automations, etc) and switch between computers

 

Everything at the Reason rack is synced between devices, so I can just continue working on my laptop with the exact same project I just saved at the studio desktop

 

Reason is also rock solid, never had a crash, just like Renoise. Highly recommended.



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 20:18

Linux user here.

 

Nothing wrong with using more than one DAW at the same time.

 

I will often use Qtractor or Ardour simultaneously with Renoise depending on what aspects I use from each. Each has it's advantages and can compliment each other.



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 22:33

ffs ..renoise development is NOT dead ...so what if takes more then 2 years for an upadate , it happened before .

Then start moaning ...bleh bleh...recommend me a new daw .. ...because the developers don't care about my investment ...Renoise must be dead ...you soft pussy .

Try reaper ..they have an update almost every month ...unless you start crying on a weekly basis ...


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 22:50

Try reaper ..they have an update almost every month ..


Thanks! will try it :-)

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 23:30

It would be hard to tell you what software would fit for you...without knowing how you are about to use it.

 

You feel unhappy with renoise, so maybe you are lacking modern features like sidechaining, midi/plugin layering and freezing? Maybe the unclear user interface was a hindrance for you? Or all the extra freaky tricks needed to get this or that special function working in a half-assed way? C'mon, tell us, tell the devs so they know what went wrong for you. This way we might also be able to suggest you some other software that might suit you more to achieve the indirect_mental_transduction™ of your creative ideas without having to woe insanity every half hour (or so).

 

And remember to pass on your renoise license to some zealous rookie at a fair price. The force will be with him/her/it (I mean that rookie being). That will bring fresh blood (or plasma) to the renoise realm, and you're gonna need that money to buy a daw software product at times x the price point of renoise. Ha ha ha ha...



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Posted 03 December 2016 - 02:13

oh my, plugin hoarders (i am one haha), daw hoppers, 4bar loop slackers and other folks sittin "in the waitin room" ^^.

all daws i know are good enough to arrange music. the new tracktion 7 aint bad too. i like the new layer possibilities so far from what ive seen. besides renoise im using ableton live(cos of push and rewire ability with renoise) and bitwig (no rewire, rudimentary push script, but better handling than ableton live).

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 03:50

An update has been confirmed so I don't think it's dead. Did i miss something?

Which thread was that in? Just curious if anything was said about better support for high-dpi displays, which is really the only thing I miss (badly). Otherwise I'm perfectly happy with Renoise as it is.



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Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:37

I never do not understand people who require annual updates. Why you dont want new update for your guitar?

 

 

Seriously. Renoise was already amazing and/or perfect years ago. Even if they hadn't updated it since 2006 I would probably still be using it.


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Posted 03 December 2016 - 05:51

An update has been confirmed so I don't think it's dead. Did i miss something?

Since spending time on the old Reason forums, I have found it is customary that a good products fans eventually turn on the developers for not doing enough for to them enough and start thinking and typing in click bait

 

I call it Forum Depression when you spend too much time on forums and not enough time making music

 

I also blame the internet in general, but in an age where everything has daily updates seeing something not have those might make some think the project is dead.

 

But I agree, why would that even matter? If it works, why do you need constant development? Is that the new way to tell if something is good now?


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