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#26 TheBellows

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 20:01

I didn't like it all that much myself, but http://www.mutools.c...ux-product.html might be an option if you wanna do some modular stuff.

Even though it might be fascinating and a change from the usual routines, it is time consuming and you need to have some patience and maybe start with looking at preset patches to get an idea where to start. The more complex the harder to keep track of everything. I personally prefer a more organized view of things and not just a lot of cables noodling about. I wouldn't mind filling a wall with some of those though, i think i eventually will end up with something similar built with partly homemade stuff, but i need the time and place. 


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 02:10

  I have a nord modular for almost 20 years ..and yes it's digital ..but still verry capable ...And ..it handles feedback verry well :) 

 

Either you go fully analogue..but beware .. people call it a rabit hole ...there's no ending to it ...

 

Or get a nice buchla inspired 'make noise ' zero coast  

 


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 05:19

Quote from gentleclockdivider..

"Or get a nice buchla inspired 'make noise ' zero coast".

 

I just got it recently, its my first modular.. very flexible (for the cost and size).

 

For example, by accident of course,

I was able to do some poly-rythms by clocking the gate

and modulating the balance between the fundamental and overtones

with the slope generator (which can be cycled).

The clock at one speed and the slope generator at a different speed.

No midi input since I don't have a midi interface..

but being able to have Renoise communicate to it would be more than welcome.

 

Anyway, from the man himself (No Coast topic and demo starts at 23:44)..

 

ContinuuCon :: Tony Rolando on East Coast/West Coast Synthesis

 

 

Also, on a different subject (software synth)

be on the look out for Sonic Charge's Synplant update in 2017.

 

I don't know if it will be modular but its suppose to be a game changer in terms of "discovering patches".


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 10:42

I didn't like it all that much myself, but http://www.mutools.c...ux-product.html might be an option if you wanna do some modular stuff.

Even though it might be fascinating and a change from the usual routines, it is time consuming and you need to have some patience and maybe start with looking at preset patches to get an idea where to start. The more complex the harder to keep track of everything. I personally prefer a more organized view of things and not just a lot of cables noodling about. I wouldn't mind filling a wall with some of those though, i think i eventually will end up with something similar built with partly homemade stuff, but i need the time and place. 

Mux seems to be interesting. :-) But, I am still hesitating, as I already have modular software synths (Wusik and others), modular enviroments (Bidule, Usine) ... Maybe it is already more than enough for me. 

 

I am afraid  that you can spend years making patches, without making any music, once you started with a modular synth. Because it is so interesting to patch around. And if you do it with hardware, you just need to remember how you wired everything to recall a patch - in software it is different, there you have the convenience of fxp files. ;-)

 

If I win the lottery and have enough time to take the keyboard lessons, I'll want to have a look at the Matrixbrute. Not fully modular, but it looks like the better user interface, and can remember all patches, besides other cool features. For now, I stick with my small sequencers (or software), no need for a big keyboard, as long as I cannot type with ten fingers LOL


Edited by magickz, 29 December 2016 - 11:10.


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 11:00

Mux and Reaktor experts: How is their CPU usage? I do not know them, but from other modular software synths I know that is not difficult to exhaust the CPU with a complicated patch. Even 16 GB of Ram would not help, as I learned. So, how is it with Reaktor (or Mux) if you want to use several instances at once?



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Posted 29 December 2016 - 11:51

And here is another one that also works on a Mac or Windows PC... http://sound-guru.com/software/tangle/

 


Edited by magickz, 29 December 2016 - 12:00.


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Posted 30 December 2016 - 00:59

mostly use mine as mood light swag.

 

How bigs your electricity bill?

125-300 a month.Jeesus wtf?

 

 

wow, i blew off that 0coast thing. but, looks much cooler than i thought it was.  it's very well thought out.


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 19:15

this guy is printing! and programming (in pd) his own modular-alike environment that he can wear! while performing :panic:  

 

http://onyx-ashanti.com/



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 19:02

anyway, if you do decide to get into this stuff get some function generator type modules very early in. pittsburgh envelope, maths, function, a 171-2 doepfer, rampage, whatever.  they won't loose functionality no matter what direction you upgrade in.  how often do these come up used? rarely because. this affordable and assembled serge/buchla 'analog computer' 'patch programmable' stuff that doepfer's fit-it-in-euroracking 'standard' eventually became impregnated with is (not all, but...) an important part of it's appeal.

 

figuring these out (not hard) will quickly twist your thinking around to realizing what modular really is.  and can serve to lead future expansions with less guesswork.

 

tbh eurorack is a pretty mediocre standard. not bad, just not great. sometimes bad. still great accomplishment overall. the thing about standards is that the most important part is how many people jump on board and go with it, not how good the standard really is. 'good' standards can be incredibly contentious! which makes them fail without some amazing leadership or powerful force behind them....  but then, those often turn into tyrannical one man shows then they maybe don't exactly fail, but do... whatever they do.... yeah... way off topic now....

 

so, yeah, if you must do it, do it. and ig i suggest you first do the usual and get some eurorack setup and some osc and filter that you like and some function generators and see what happens.

 

messing about and seeing what happens is one of the advantages of modular.  being a gentlemanly hobby is another. certainly, more [edit]humane[edit] than writing poetry or shooting deer or foxes.


Edited by oneunkind, 23 January 2017 - 19:32.

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 03:39

its not worth the time and effort.

there is a modular synth in caustic for android, moog model 15 on idevices.

if i had it i'd rather spend that kind of money on a linnstrument to hook up to an ipad with moog model 15...sounds the same. linnstrument will change tings.

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 22:03

hornet modular synth - very nice compact design design: http://wp.thesynthi.de/







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