I don't know how long you've been using renoise ,so I can only speak for myself .
After more then 10 years of use , ..the tracker interface has become a second nature ...
I am a fairly good keyboard player , so yes ..I could use any other program and record stuff..but for drumprogramming there's nothing that comes close.
My 2 cents .
And let' be honoust ..the filters in BITWIG ..yikkes ...especially the ladder ...aliases at high resonce .
I am not convinced by the underlying modular engine , ( spoiled by reaktor I guess ) .
Said it before , a naked bitwig + modulation @ half the price and I would consider it .
Happy music making ...we'll see you back when renoise 3.5 drops
Well, I was on onboard since Renoise 1.8, that's quite a while, now. I like a lot of things in Renoise like copying a drum pattern with Ctrl-P and so on, too. But I think the Bitwig midi editor drum view/mode is much more compact, and it's easier to see the events/notes in relation to each other. In Renoise the tracks are wider than the compact midi event lanes in Bitwig. If you use many drum tracks in Renoise it's difficult to keep overview. Much more scrolling needed, no zooming support wether horizontally nor vertically. Indeed I often lost overview while editing more complex drum parts in Renoise. No color coding, all tracks look the same.
Ok, I use the mouse much more in Bitwig for event editing, but nonetheless I'm fast. And I would be even faster If I would use a midi keyboard/drum pad. And I can use the PC keyboard, too. E.g. for microshifting events. That's not possible in Renoise. You simply can't shift a note/drum event a few milliseconds in time. There's no keyboard shortcut nor mouse support for this. You always have to do it indirectly using delay values, OFF event and such stuff. Totally cumbersome. Do a hand made shuffle in Renoise vs. Bitwig. Bitwig is much more easier.
@Ladder: I haven't noticed, yet. But such filters are often a matter of taste. Maybe aliasing is intended coloring (?). E.g. I didn't like the filters in Renoise too much. Since 3.1 they were improved, though. Overall I assume the dsp's in Bitwig are derived from vember audio surge (Klaas). If they are good and fit in, I use them. Otherwise I use external stuff. Native DSP Quality is actually the least important DAW argument for me, because there are so many good plugins on the market. Ok, the better integration of native stuff is an argument, though.
@Renoise 3.5: if current development speed stays the same this will not happen before 2021. And in 2021 we'll see Bitwig 3.x for sure. :-) ....
But finally I agree, regardless if Bitwig or Renose.... having fun and making music is what should matter most ^^
Edited by Airmann, 10 March 2017 - 13:04.