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#1 thanatos

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 20:22

i love to crossbreed metal with breakcore and such sick ass musick

 

do you know some good guitar metal renoise instrument ?

i don't want to use vsti


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 13:11

I know this one is pretty slick for hard rhythm lines: http://forum.renoise...-std-processed/

 

and this drumkit to drive it: http://forum.renoise...drm-cla-h24xrn/

 

maybe others know more.

 

but after all I'd really recommend finding someone who has a guitar and a nice amp & is able to play it, to record sessions according to your ideas for sample generation. electric guitar is a very complex and delicate instrument to play, capable of many degreeless shades. you just cannot cater it all with a simplified instrument like I linked above.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 14:59

Maybe not very metal, but cool anyway: http://forum.renoise...cker/?hl=rocker


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 14:20

bro like to track metal in Renoise too....  i plug my guitar directly to the interface and use the poulin pack amps (they are free just google it) for the drive and the cabinet simulator device to  turn it into an actual guitar sound. Renoise built in fx are sick for guitar tones specially the mp reverb and the delay.....

always use pre.. and post eqs....:)



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 21:50

ive found some metal soundfont but they use sfpacker that don"t work on osx

could somebody convert this sound font to xrni

http://blackmetalwhi....com/LP2.sfpack

http://www.fruityclu...nt-by-metaltek/

it would be uber cool and usefull

then i will host so everybody could use them

thanks


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:42

Hello!

 

It is possible to do that with free tools + Renoise, but I hope there exists a simpler way to do it...

 

1 - SFPACK to SF2

 

You can do it with the free tool SFPACK.

http://www.personalcopy.com/sfpack.htm

Once installed and launched, open the SFPACK file you want to convert.

Then click on the button "Go!" : it will create the SF2 file (same folder by default).

It seems that a SFPACK can contain several SF2 but not sure...

 

2 - SF2 to SFZ

 

You can do it with the free tool POLYPHONE.

https://polyphone-soundfonts.com/

Once installed and launched, open the SF2 file you want to convert.

Then menu File | Export soundfont, choose SFZ for output format, and folder.

There are often several SFZ files in a SF2 file.

 

3 - SFZ to XRNI

 

Renoise can open SFZ instruments.

Find you SFZ in the bottom right panel and load it into the top right panel.

From here you can right click on it and save it as a XRNI file.
That's all... phew!!

 

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Hmm... I just read you are on OSX... not sure the tools exist... sorry...


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:05

OK, let's say I made that to experiment the technic and the tools...

Here are all the XRNI you asked:

https://www.dropbox...._liKwpClRa?dl=0

I let you share them the way you want.

The best would be, I think, directly here in the download instruments section?

Anyway, very good metal guitar sounds, it rocks!

 

:yeah:  :guitar: :guitar:  :guitar:   :badteethslayer:


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 14:42

thanks a lot

you are a don

will post the pack soon


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 12:16

i love to crossbreed metal with breakcore and such sick ass musick

 

do you know some good guitar metal renoise instrument ?

i don't want to use vsti

 

 

Go to your local metal club, look for the beards that a bunch of people want to talk to or be associated with, now go and ask them to come and record some power chords and chuggs for you, done.

 

(Trust me, metal heads are generally the nicest people you will meet, and will most likely be there the next day to record some guitar)


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 00:39

Hello!

 

It is possible to do that with free tools + Renoise, but I hope there exists a simpler way to do it...

 

1 - SFPACK to SF2

 

You can do it with the free tool SFPACK.

http://www.personalcopy.com/sfpack.htm

Once installed and launched, open the SFPACK file you want to convert.

Then click on the button "Go!" : it will create the SF2 file (same folder by default).

It seems that a SFPACK can contain several SF2 but not sure...

 

2 - SF2 to SFZ

 

You can do it with the free tool POLYPHONE.

https://polyphone-soundfonts.com/

Once installed and launched, open the SF2 file you want to convert.

Then menu File | Export soundfont, choose SFZ for output format, and folder.

There are often several SFZ files in a SF2 file.

 

3 - SFZ to XRNI

 

Renoise can open SFZ instruments.

Find you SFZ in the bottom right panel and load it into the top right panel.

From here you can right click on it and save it as a XRNI file.
That's all... phew!!

 

:smashed:


Hmm... I just read you are on OSX... not sure the tools exist... sorry...

 

Fantastic Tip - Thnx a lot sokoban !!

Got now in Renoise a ready to go mapped General Midi Drum Set from POLYPHONE  (Roland SC-55.sf2 / SFZ Export) with 5 Minutes Work.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 16:54

Honestly i wouldn't use a metal guitar sounding instrument, a much more convincing method would be to use clean/dry sounding guitar sounds and then process with cab simulator or guitar amp plugins.

It's close ito mpossible to make it sound convincing starting with generic metal guitar sounds, while the above method can actually sound frickin awsome if you follow this procedure:

 

You need two tracks, one track post panned to hard left and the other to the hard right. Then add the exact same 'metal guitar sound' DSP chain to both tracks.

Now you just need some clean guitar samples/instruments or most preferably a guitar. The samples/instruments can't be identical on both tracks, but they should sound similar.

 

If you own a guitar:

 

If you have a guitar, but you can't play what you want there are lots of tricks that can make it sound like you're a guitar hero. One trick i like is to play the riff or whatever at half speed and then pitch it up one octave. When you then record this riff twice and put one on each track it will sound really good and super phat.

 

Another trick is to add a sineish sample to complement the moves on the guitar to make it sound even phatter. Filter it to make it fit. Then if you want to add a short break or change at the end of the pattern you can often get away with altering the tones with this sample and then add a comb filter somewher in or behind the DSP chains, that you control with these tones.

 

I made a little demo here to show some tricks:

 

http://forum.renoise...-metal-example/

 


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 14:01

related: https://www.youtube....h?v=cBjpXPaLIh0



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 16:47

My setup is almost identical to the one in the video. I use the TSE_808 distortion VST in front followed by FA36 just as in the video, but i use NadIR for the cabinet simulation with different IR samples, GuitarHack JJ Powertube and Catharsis is some of the ones i use. All free plugins and IRs. Sounds way better than my example above as i find it very hard to make proper metal sound with native effects.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 17:03

If you got $5, these are the absolute best sounding cab impulses I have ever heard:

 

http://www.criticalcabs.com/

 

Also check out LePou Le456.  Can get heavy tone out of it without a pedal plugin, which ends up sounding cleaner and having a lower noise floor when nothing is being played:

 

https://lepouplugins.blogspot.com/


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