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#26 sokoban

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 20:25

I don't really understand the problem you are talking about...


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 20:45

I use 25" 2560x1440

 

It works...but any smaller finer dpi and renoise would become really hard to use. I remember when I got the screen as upgrade from a low res one I was already using renoise, and it took some time for me to adapt to everything being smaller than I was used to.


Edited by OopsIFly, 01 August 2017 - 20:46.


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Posted 02 August 2017 - 02:29

OK a linear DAW needs HDPI, big orchestral arrangements, huge layered rock mixes whatever, wtf are you guys doing that warrants a huge high resolution monitor for Renoise, get your big monitor, keep your old one, run Renoise at 1920x1080 because there is zero point having more real estate, and use your big monitor for whatever you really bought it for.

Shit, even multi monitors makes more sense with Renoises UI than one big HDPI monitor.

FFS its just a tracker, people were making full tunes in trackers when they had 4 note poly and a resolution of 320x240 or something hahahaha

It's just a tracker, don't you get it hahaha


Edited by Bungle, 02 August 2017 - 02:29.

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 11:29

Listen to Bungle. Just keep a backwards compatible 1080p monitor on your desk for the sole purpose of running Renoise on it. It's just a tracker.

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 12:13

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 09:38

Nothing to report about Renoise, so I changed the topic. Yes, looks exactly same. I wonder for the future, if it would be suitable "simply" to make all elements in a 3x sized bitmap, instead vectorize everything? Never built a app GUI, so I have no clue.


I am guessing that the dev process works something like this:

1) Make the app DPI aware under all operating systems - with respective scaling algorithms per default for all elements.
2) Vectorize element by element, starting with font rendering (same thing cakewalk has done) and then moving onto viewbuilder objects, other specific objects, grid/background/areas gfx and other specific renderings.
3) Done :P

Most probably, the image rendering engine should support both vector (SVG?) and bitmaps of any resolution. SVG seems much more space efficient, and should have a better potential for eventual subpixel rendering.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:39

Serious first world problems.... Not. Well, HighDPI gui already was confirmed, the question is when!  :badteeth:    I guess, all people who already using 4k will want to have support for it, because normal full hd really looks like eye cancer in comparison then.   

 

If I had known that two years after I bought a 1440p display we still wouldn't have high-dpi support in Renoise, I would have bought another 1080p monitor instead or gone right for 4k (but for gaming I figured a single 980ti wouldn't really be idea for a 4k display and I couldn't spend even more). :)  27"/1440p really does not work well with Renoise at all, at least for me. I installed it on a 1080p laptop that I really don't use much anymore (and that I would like to drop Linux on), but my interface and studio monitors are connected to the desktop, so it feels sub-optimal.

 

If Taktik waits a few more years, I suspect the problem will go away as most people will have 4k or better by then and can just use 200% without huge quality loss. ;)  Seriously, though, I'm happy that work on high-dpi support had started already and that it will come at a future point in time.



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Posted 19 August 2017 - 00:47

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Posted 07 May 2018 - 20:05

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Taktik has indeed made some progress moving towards true support for high DPI displays. It's an ongoing process that still requires a lot of work and testing, but it will eventually become a reality. You guys will just have to be patient until then.


How patient?
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Posted 08 May 2018 - 06:40

How patient?

 

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 04:37

the benefits of a hdpi version vs a 2x scaled version (accomplished by setting monitor resolution to 1920x1080):

  • more space for pattern editor and pattern sequencer

I was trying to justify that the fixed dpi version of renoise is perfect but it sure would be better overview-wise to have a scalable ui :[

 

P.S.: Pattern editor is already scalable (it's what's in the settings). So it's only everything apart that needs to be made scalable :smashed:


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 12:10

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P.S.: Pattern editor is already scalable (it's what's in the settings). So it's only everything apart that needs to be made scalable :smashed:

 

To be exact, the pattern editor is not entirely scalable, only the text font is scalable, you can even change the font type. Unfortunately, the complexity lies in all the graphically visible objects, such as icons, buttons, areas that limit spaces, etc.
It's a pretty big issue.
 
The interesting thing is to be able to use large screens in 4K or more, being able to easily read the content without going blind, and at the same time gain substantially a work surface. I have always thought that the main limitation for Renoise is the vertical space. If the design is maintained, the matrix editor will benefit most.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 15:49

So is this NORMAL GUY an angry guy or what, hahahaha


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 16:07

So is this NORMAL GUY an angry guy or what, hahahaha

Stick around, you'll find angry people here...or one person impersonating multiple angry people. Either way poor.


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 10:56


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