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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:12

Just saw this, is anyone using it?

 

https://www.amazon.c...eywords=renoise

 

 

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 18:21

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 18:41

Could be interesting if you don't mind sacrificing a cheap USB keyboard for this purpose, but I wouldn't want to uglify my good keyboard with those awful stickers, and who knows what kind of crappy residue the glue will leave behind if you ever want to remove them.

These things first appeared quite a few years ago, so they may also be somewhat outdated now compared to the default key bindings in the latest versions of Renoise.

I try to spend as little time as possible looking at my keyboard, so scanning all the stickers for some random key binding just seems like wasted time to me.

Better to simply spend a few hours learning the key bindings that are important to you, and never have to look at these ugly things :)
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Posted 27 July 2017 - 19:27

I'd rather go with just a single hotkey to memorize as first step. The one that you set up that will switch from fullscreen renoise to an adequatly sorted fullscreen reference of key combos and then back to renoise for you to apply the one you just looked up. If you keep this habit, you will be surprised how fast you will have the most common combos in muscle memory, and the not so often used will also come within a short time of working. Hyperbolic curve decrease of reference lookup frequency if you stay with it, and much better than always having to search for the key where that function is printed on, yeah fast keyboard workflow means looking less onto the keys and more onto the screen, not the other way round...

 

Also this way you can learn you own customised combo. Remember renoise lets you make up your own key mappings. There are way more available than mapped by default, and you can add arbitrary complexity lua code to make your own to go even further. The stickers won't help you with that.

 

And I also don't want goo on my keys, and the stuff would for sure just block my backlight & I'm a candlelight tracking guy. Nah!

 

Ok for a low cost throwaway usb keyboard just to learn the default map for a while, why not.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 21:24

:w00t: Christmas 2017 :w00t:

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I wonder how did the company find Renoise and actually thought about this product to begin with. Gimmicky, though for new users could be like fun if it comes preset with their keyboards or like a gift sticker situation. Some Renoise merchandising gives way. Mugs and t shirts are great to begin with. There are many t-shirt printing services, maybe if the graphic designers among us can post some well done and creative Renoise pics we can print out own t shirts or even ship them to areas where people can afford them.

For epic slogans I am using @garrett's superb one liners that will definitely make people think when they see my shirt ๐Ÿ˜

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 22:24

Well, I learnt my shortcuts a little different method. I learnt the most essential ones for transport, record and song follow first, just 4 shortcuts. Then I went over the most essential view focus shortcuts that are basically the function keys. Then alt+click. These enough got me to every view in Renoise without any thought process involved. Then for every feature that I wanted to use in each editor, I manually read the shortcut assignments first, say 5-6 of them in one sitting and then saved the original keybindings file and made a new one. I deleted those keyboard configs and from memory reassigned them.Doing this process for just over a week for each editor, enabled me to discover many features that were not assigned and I assigned new shortcuts to them and also remapped or swapped some existing ones to suit my style. The key to this learning style is to direct your learning based on your needs and act actively looking for content and not passively waiting to sift through every content and then zone out in the end. It's playing tricks with your mind. If you are 'on the lookout' mode then most definitely you will train your brain faster than passively trying to rote memorize even unneeded shortcuts in the process. Also something very unique happens when you manually reassign the keys, your brain just clicks and records your physical movements and keeps that registered in the short term memory. The next step is to strengthen those new neural networks and keep repeating the steps often and always on maintenance mode, like a sparring session so that you never atrophy. Just like sleep and excercise, and breathing there are things in your life that are super essential but cannot be 'stored' for future use, you can accrue the benefits(maintain the discipline) but never store it. Same with using software, use it or lose it.

In just about 8 days I have the bulk of Renoise functionality under my fingertips. Never needed stickers in the first place. But I feel those who are using stickers to map shortcuts for Renoise are completely missing the point, cos it's very keyboard oriented and one is expected to master them eventually. Logic and other tools where mouse is used mostly will actually benefit since the memory area in the brain will atrophy concerning shortcuts over time, since everything is visual and click based.


For the gimmick loving folks the stickers maybe an ornamental accessory. The color scheme is too garish for me.For young kids who might be lucky enough to learn Renoise, they might really enjoy the layout though.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 22:47

I wonder how did the company find Renoise and actually thought about this product to begin with.


They simply churn out hundreds of these things for any application that seems vaguely popular.

http://www.4keyboard.com/240-audio

Probably saw Renoise on some blog like Music Radar, or perhaps on a download site like CNet, etc.


Bonus: Quite an amusing "About Us" page they have: http://www.4keyboard...tent/4-about-us

( Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/8TemaCQ.png )

Top quality products indeed :)
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Posted 27 July 2017 - 22:53

They simply churn out hundreds of these things for any application that seems vaguely popular.http://www.4keyboard.com/240-audioProbably saw Renoise on some blog like Music Radar, or perhaps on a download site like CNet, etc.Bonus: Quite an amusing "About Us" page they have: http://www.4keyboard...tent/4-about-us( Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/8TemaCQ.png ) Top quality products indeed :)

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It's based in America and they even have shortcut keys for different keyboard types and languages, including one for Hindi which is the national language in India. Nice selection, even for other audio softwares.

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