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#76 tertl3

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 21:07

Do you have your code public or is this something you are doing privately?  I would love to see it



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:15

Looks quite promising to me, too. Any test version available?


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Posted 26 February 2018 - 18:23

its dead - like your best friend in life  :)


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 02:37

I have many times been wondering this pianoroll theme. This is just an idea. Tracker pianoroll would make more sense if pattern effects gets visualized somehow. I understand that it would require advanced and flexible graphics. But anyways it would be very interesting, think about pianoroll visualizing arpeggio, tremolo, vibrato, retrigger, pitch slide and glide. Just thinkin ...


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 11:38

imo, a piano - roll in #renoise would make more sense, implemented into the #phrase - editor, where the renoise - piano already resides.

 

a vertical #roll which should be toggled with the main pattern view in the phrases, with that a simple #renoisesish PR could be added & 

 

for the deeper tweaking just be #toggled back to pattern view. from there these could be used like #phrases & triggered from the main patterns.

 

just an idea, me is not a coder....so I dont really know whats possible & easy to do; yet this would more be a kind of #gui overlay.

 

by putting it into the phrase - editor though, it would pretty much keep renoise what it is, a #tracker & just add another feature.  :ph34r:

 

As a non - coding - expert, kind of complicated to explain these things properly to them #pros...so me just made a simple pic:

 

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 17:26

Well, there's nothing new under the sun....or not much  :walkman: still think the PR would better fit into them #phrases  :ph34r:

 

http://forum.renoise...pattern-editor/


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 17:43

@ElºHYM This has already been discussed several times in the forums. IMO. It is easier to migrate the virtual keyboard under the pattern editor, and place the PR there in vertical, in an anchored window that you can maximize. Anyway, the virtue of a tracker are the keyboard commands. If you are skillful, you will go faster than with a PR. But a vertical PR would visually help to "listen with the eyes".

 

Anyway, I do not expect Frenetic Friend to come back. It seems that this man came, tried to build a PR, but he saw that there are things that are not feasible with the API available, and since there is no support, and it is very hard to make a tool as advanced as a PR, it was abandoned. It was fun while it lasted. Too bad the code is lost ... If there were frequent updates from Renoise, this would be different.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 18:24

I do agree with this & from that perspective; yet also think it would make more sense as a mini piano roll in the phrase - editor, which also would be expandable to a certain degree. The reason me would prefer to just have it for jamming out phrases & chords, melodies & then trigger those from the main - pattern - matrix, is exactly what you said in the second part; I do want to keep it tracker here, esp.from the workflow we are all used to. Though I have read into the older threads about this & it seems a bit more complex and complicated than I first thought. Still would be useful to have something like this.

 

@ElºHYM This has already been discussed several times in the forums. IMO. It is easier to migrate the virtual keyboard under the pattern editor, and place the PR there in vertical, in an anchored window that you can maximize. Anyway, the virtue of a tracker are the keyboard commands. If you are skillful, you will go faster than with a PR. But a vertical PR would visually help to "listen with the eyes".

 

Anyway, I do not expect Frenetic Friend to come back. It seems that this man came, tried to build a PR, but he saw that there are things that are not feasible with the API available, and since there is no support, and it is very hard to make a tool as advanced as a PR, it was abandoned. It was fun while it lasted. Too bad the code is lost ... If there were frequent updates from Renoise, this would be different.


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#84 Raegae

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 19:41

frenetic_friend dont go away, this is the best implementation of PR that I have seen so far ...



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Posted 30 March 2018 - 21:37

In the meantime.. anyone can recommend me a good pianoroll vsti? tried temper but I don't like the workflow.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 10:15

Bump.. any progress on this tool?



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Posted 30 April 2018 - 15:56

still cant see the benefit of a piano roll :( in renoise

 

just get reaper its my solution !!

 

 

better to implement audio tracks and realtime timestretch  :guitar:


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Posted 30 April 2018 - 22:27

still cant see the benefit of a piano roll :( in renoise

 

just get reaper its my solution !!

 

 

better to implement audio tracks and realtime timestretch  :guitar:

 

Although I really appreciate the efforts made by the OP with the piano roll plugin, I would now prefer having the features from above (realtime timestretching <3).


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Posted 04 May 2018 - 07:43

Haters really gonna hate. Even a piano roll TOOL is too threatening. Let's start derailing the topic, shall we?
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:09

MaYbe a Piano Roll is actually more like a Piano Troll 4 Renoise? Because this #topic has been around 4 quite sum Time, now.  :walkman:


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