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Posted 20 August 2017 - 14:15

I am visiting Europe in the month of December, starting from Paris and with an itenary to Vienna, Prague and Sweden. If there are any of you who can share a couch for maybe a day or two then it would be great to both meet other Renoisers in person as well as discover the city with a local. For those outside these countries I can adjust my itenary provided I can stay for a little while.

I suppose many won't like the idea but since I tried couch surfing, it's great fun and also you get to skip hotel bills. Combine that with Renoise and maybe it can work.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 20:55

Yeah, but one of the "interests" in your profile is "Women", so that probably makes you high-risk to other males with a potential free couch :D


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 03:41

😁 Ya well that is only for the women outside the hosts locations and mostly for chilling out not interfereing in anyone's lives. Full respect will be given to the hosts family and home. There are lots of places for things like that, few months back I was in Amsterdam and Rotterdam and I had good fun there. However Christmas is a different occasion. Europe is also a very conservative society and the homes are normally smaller sized. I tried couch surfing from the app only once and it was a cool experience with the host.

I also travel remarkably light with just a 5 kg mini backpack for communication and electronics items and an extra pair of shoes. Rest all the clothes are on my travel jacket on my body. I keep em clean obviously and am a hygiene freak in general. I take bath even when it's freezing outside. Winters in Europe are cold though. It's unlikely I will see any tracker musician via the regular couch surfing app.

If any of you want to stay in India you are most welcome to both of my houses for any length of time.

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:53

Just pulling your leg, Victor :D 

 

What I've seen of you on the forum, you're the perfect gent, and normally I'd have no trouble putting you up, but it's not practical right now.

I was going to mention those websites, but you mentioned an "app" so I suppose you're already aware of them.

 

Anyway, best of luck mate, I hope you find a Renoiser to stay with cause that's gotta be way cooler than just anyone without Renoise :)


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 14:22

Just pulling your leg, Victor :D 
 
What I've seen of you on the forum, you're the perfect gent, and normally I'd have no trouble putting you up, but it's not practical right now.
I was going to mention those websites, but you mentioned an "app" so I suppose you're already aware of them.
 
Anyway, best of luck mate, I hope you find a Renoiser to stay with cause that's gotta be way cooler than just anyone without Renoise :)


Ya I know you are pulling it :) However thank you for offering to help out. No worries, I know it might not be the best of times, also since Christmas in Europe is normally a very family oriented celebration. But I am determined to have some great fun in Paris Disneyland, and visit Christmas markets in Cologne and Vienna. Back to apps I suppose :)

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 18:29

That's true, wrong time of year for couch surfing due to visitors sleeping over at their families over Christmas etc.

Anyway, have fun, you can keep Disneyland (wouldn't go there if you paid me), but I can imagine the Chrismas markets in Cologne and Vienna would be pretty cool :)



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 14:18

Disneyland is fun for other reasons, you get to be a kid again, hotels to stay and food to eat. Also it's the 25th anniversary so unique celebrations are underway. Christmas in Disneyland and in Paris will be a great way to brag about 2017:) Most markets will close by the Christmas day after so it's recommended to visit Europe early and enjoy it till then. The whole Christmas spirit affair dies relatively faster in Western Europe in terms of festivities. Churches would be nice for an all time visit. And back to your original point European women are the hottest in the world and some action is for sure to happen (tee hee hee).

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 11:21

Churches would be nice for an all time visit. And back to your original point European women are the hottest in the world and some action is for sure to happen (tee hee hee).

 

I've always said one of the nicest attractions in Europe is the Gothic Cathedrals we have over here.  I live in the UK and if I travel somewhere (or near to somewhere) that has a Cathedral, I take the time to take it in if possible.  We're lucky to have plenty of Gothic Cathedrals here.  Love the Gothic style and the grandeur of it all!

 

Regards Europe having the hottest women, well that's nice to hear from someone who travels, but you probably destroyed any chances of getting a couch now that you've verified my suspicions :D

 

QUOTE:

"European women are the hottest in the world and some action is for sure to happen (tee hee hee)"

 

Gender : MALE
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Interests : JAZZ - MALWARE - WORLD TRAVEL - WOMEN

 

In other words, some smooth-talking dude from India is gonna come to your house, sleep on your couch, spin your Jazz vinyl collection to seduce your woman.  Then he's gonna infect your computer with malware so that you can't track him down while he flies-off back to India taking your woman along with him!

 

You must think us Europeans were born yesterday ... face it ... you're just too high-risk to be let loose around any European household that has a women in it :D


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Posted 26 August 2017 - 12:24

So now I'm waiting for some poor guy married to an old witch to say something like ...

"Dude, please, come stay with me and take her home with ya!" :lol:


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Posted 26 August 2017 - 14:48

@Renoised:
Haha bro you got some really good sense of humour, love your style:D The conclusion you came to is SO literal could make a teddy bear look like Ted Bundy! Of course I love Jazz and computer security you dummy!!! You can't use thaaat against me..... nOooooOoO please don't lock me out now, it's freezing, I need hot food and a warm bed....I implore thee Sire, give me couch or I am gonna be a grouch.

Enter meme: Dracula face with big red eyes with text "Can I sleep on your couch today?!?
(You thinking -"WTF I ain't got time for all this..".)


I am sure the old 'witch' and will be the jewel of my life and will be taken care of with utmost love and respect - only as a friend:D He he that cracked me up..

Side note:
Btw for the rest too who might think I have Indian citizenship so I must be what you get to see on TV or movies etc.... I suck at being a good Indian anyways because my nationalistic feelings are betrayed by a highly corrupted government and disjointed society. Also, from my father's side, they are ancient head hunting tribes from the Sino Tiberian region and hence I don't identify too quickly with speaking Hindi or representing myself as Indian since I have had a very pan ethnic upbringing. In fact my native language is Garo which is more akin to sounding like Mongolian/Tibetian than any thing close to Sanskrit or the Devnagri script.

https://en.m.wikiped...iki/Garo_people

Also I don't even look the part of either as a regular variety Indian guy or even as regular Garo for that matter becos I have mixed ethnicity. Funny thing even my own family from each side look very different from me even though we are related.Works for me though since I get to pretend as if I am a tourist in my own country. That hair I got, most guys do not have that:) Hooray to genetics!

Add to that I have a very strong English accent from years of proper schooling and travels that most from India do not speak like except those few who have had the privilege to study or live abroad or learnt it via exposure to cultures and people that encouraged them. I learnt English from "White Women", mostly Europeans and that is why I owe so much to them.:)

Unlike European societies, the entire Indian community does not have a sense of unity as such especially in current times. Imagine UK with each region and district having their own script and language, how disjointed would that be? Couple that with multiple religions being followed everywhere internally with no cohesive sense of unity and you will get the true picture about what it really means to be living in India.

I have a highly privileged upbringing with my father being a bureaucrat VIP and all that so I always tasted the upper class good life. What I love about being here is that I love having the upper hand and influence at things here in India. I can literally kick someone's ass and go scott free or intimidate someone to stop on their tracks. Also it's really cheap to live especially if you make money in Euros and Dollars, and there is an old world feel to many cities especially since India was a British colony for 200 years and that rubs on really fast:)

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 17:36

Ah right, sounds like you're from Northern India then, I was curious and was about to ask you that.

 

I wouldn't be so quick to see the various societies as disjointed, though, cause although you might see that as a disadvantage (even if in some cases it is), I personally think there is more good in such a situation than bad.  I personally believe the internet. media, and technology is destroying individualism and turning things and people into being (and thinking) alike.  A perfect example of this is Japan.  I love Japan, the Japanese people and their culture, their way of life.  But lately you can see it in their music, their movies, their media, that they're becoming more and more Americanized by the day.  That's nothing against Americans, I love Americans for different reasons (mainly because I think they're nuts) but it means that I expect the Japanese to be and behave Japanese, not American.  For example, if I were to visit Japan, I'd want to see Geisha doing their thing, not a bunch of girls dressed in jeans wearing a baseball cap waving a fluffy ball in the air like a cheerleader (I expect that in America).  But that's starting to happen all over the world, one culture is picking-up from another culture, and another culture in turn, is picking up from that.

 

But with India, such problems (and it is a problem) are less likely to spead like wildfire due to the segregation of tribes, beliefs, living standards, etc.  So in that respect you are extremely lucky to live in India and have Indian citizenship.  You live in a vast country where things are so diverse, you can literally hop out of one lifestyle and into another whenever it takes your fancy.  There is no such thing as that here in the UK for example.  Here, everything is expensive, boring, all the same, corrupt, repressive laws, snotty attitude - same wherever you go - can't do this - can't do that - but that doesn't stop them sucking everyone dry (especially the poor).  The only way to escape it is to get citizenship in another country (preferably a country like India or Australia).  Trouble is, both those countries are incredibly hard for poorer people to escape to.

 

I tried myself, like crazy, to come to India and create a new life for myself, but in the end I had to give up.  They were changing the visa system at the time so there was no way I could stay there long enough to get me a permanent residence visa or card or whatever they call it.  I could afford to get there and even support myself until I found work, but I couldn't afford to risk coming there and not being able to find work or generate an income.  I even thought about buying a van and travelling India, maybe find some work on my journeys, but even that was impossible due to not being able to get a van without an address!

 

I'll get to India some day, even if it's only a visit, but I have no idea when that will be.

 

BTW, I meant to mention in my earlier post, that when you visit Disneyland, you should ask for pointers from Donald Duck, cause apparently he's the Disney character that has all the luck with the ladies:

 


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 21:47

Wow, that is quite some story. You have got balls definitely. You are welcome to come my house anytime should you wish to visit India again in the future. In fact it's really cheap for you possibly becos all you pay for is the flights really, food and lodging is really cheap and you could eat and enjoy for less than 10 pounds per day, on a good day, unless you want to splurge. I can cook too so food is for free.

I do understand your point of view becos I travel to other countries often however I am looking to settle in Western Europe some time in near future. Preferably Germany or France or Denmark as the living standards are very high and the society is peaceful. Certainly for my future family, these benefits are what I would love to give to my kids if they have a proper European upbringing. Also education and healthcare is state sponsored and tax dependent, lower levels of teenage pregnancy and street violence etc. This other kind of life where my children and family do not have be an asshole or intimidate someone just to enjoy a day. Not to mention the creativity and cultural heritage of European countries and not like Dubai or USA which basically came just yesterday and have no cultural background of any contributor merit, certainly not on the timescale as China, India or Greece or Russia. The rich lifestyle and easy on the pockets lifestyle of Berlin or the tech hub of Munich and the variety of things to do on any particular day are a boon to someone creative and with artistic sensibilities like me. It's my goal to eventually settle down full time in one of the countries abroad. UK won't be part of my plans because as much as I admire the Islands I would not be happy with the current political and econonic climate, and in any case too many Indian Punjabis and Pakis are there already, would feel like a second Dubai. Europe is more stringent, more collected and more xenophobic, which paradoxically I like. Less locals to see on any day which to me actually makes my day, rather funny to think about it. Familiarity breeds contempt as they say.

What you have observed is the Americanization of other cultures that are non English speaking like Japan and South Korea. As the global Esperanto is English, and with the major global market in English, it's also a business decision to reach a wider market base. Everybody can buy a shoe regardless of the language but subtitling videos can only do so much, hence the acceptance of a culture en mass. Also America is very good at imposing their will down to other's throats. Their nutty culture of sex, drugs, booze and violence and biker gangs and cowboys have become ubiquitous through television programming and cinema shows worldwide. Even if someone does not know the Prime Minister of their country, they still know who is Angelina Jolie or Madonna. Facebook and social media are also important in this regard where news literally can get viral in seconds spreading like wildfire. We are living by the second without relishing the money that just went by, and with a myopic view of the present without any thought of the future. It's also historical becos England has colonised a lot of countries in the past hundred s of years just like the Dutch and the Portugese and those elite classes have a key role to play in this globalisation. They realise that culture can only go so far and a cohesive one world culture is far better to maintain an authoritative hold on the world. On the other end, in the Philippines, women are getting trianed in basic English and maid work just to get a low paying job in Dubai or Hong Kong. It's both economic and cultural reasons along with mass media and various channels of indoctrination why Americanization has happened. USA itself is a corporation not a nation really and it's constitution is as messed up as it's corporation owned government. My mother's families live in the states and till date I have no interest in visiting it barring New York which I will visit in 2018 mostly as part of my music anthropology task to revisit the historical roots of hip hop and jazz.

Donald duck, ya for sure:) I want to also meet Cinderella and give her a kiss, again. But we all know she is taken by the Prince (I just have to prove it to her that he is gay).

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:14

Gotta say, Vic, you're just the sort of guy I could talk for hours beside a campfire with :D

 

I got quite a few laughs out of what I just read from you, but man, don't get me started on politics cause I'd never shut-up bad-mouthing the politicians!

I hate politics, but I do enjoy educating people about the corrupt games they play.

 

Regards coming to India and living on £10 per day, lol, you're clearly quite wealthy then.  Either that or England has finally become the third world country I always said it would become.  In England, they're systematically murdering the poor using "Austerity Measures" as an excuse.  Strange isn't it, how every austerity measure only ever effects the poor.  What they're doing over here is mass-scale murder of the poor.  Trouble is, British people with a comfortable lifestyle are not aware of it because the govenment have everything gagged.  The government want rid of the poor they created, because poor claim benefits, the poor need the NHS etc.

 

How do they solve that?

 

They get rid of the poor of course, and that's exactly what they're doing, murder by proxy.  What we need to solve all povery is quite simple, we need a "Citizens Wage" that is taxed progressively from the super-rich and wealthy and lessening the tax as the level of wealth lessens.  There is no excuse for poverty in 2017, and the only reason it exists, is because of the corrupt practices of governments worldwide.  There has been talk of a "Citizens Wage" a few times, which basically is a minimum allowance you get to live on regardless.  A wage that cannot be taken/sanctioned from you by corrupt benefits/employment agencies etc.  That's what we need, a Citizens Wage, but I can't see it happeng somehow, and that means the situation is only going to get worse over time.

 

But yeah, nothing would please me more than to just hop on a plane and come to India, but I've got plans for the coming year and can't really abandon them.  That said, if there's a way I could get permanent residence in India I'd be over there in a flash.  The way England is going right now, I'd much rather live in India.


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 17:47

The problem with citizens wage is that it will bring the power back to the public. Businesses won't be able to buy the public's time by paying them low wages anyways so these entities will not benefit from it. If people have their rent and utilities taken care of and if everyone has a place to put up, it would be an utopia in the making. Police and crime would become more and more redundant as people will be satisfied and educated and afford to live as they want and utilise their time to do what they want.

However on the other end the motivation to work will decrease as people will become comfortable and depend solely on citizens wage. It's a balancing game to be played well. It's difficult too becos there seems to be no solution to all this. In an utopia people would lose the motivation to do things, in a dystopia it's violence and crime and dissatisfaction.

Possibly that is how the social dynamics are created and maintained. Killing the poor would only partially solve the problem. There will always be ranks within ranks as long as people are there.

But it also makes sense in some ways, you see, indiscriminate reproduction has made earth hold the burden of human consumption and wastage of resources. Happy nations are also the ones where the population is less and such societies are also more cohesive and closer to each other, just like ancient tribes like Vikings. Rampant rise in population means more supply and less demand which results in lower wages, since there is always someone who will do your job. If it's just a numbers game then the public will win obviously, but since it's a quality over quantity thing and access granted or access denied game then the elites will win eventually because they have some benefits. A crooked mind is one thing, but also power, influence and the system that they have put in place means that they have the leverage. It's going to be difficult in this world where everything is up for sale. But it's also our collective world. We will have to stand for human rights. Earth is everyone's property and we have let some devils take it over just because we were goody two shoes choir girl priss all this time. Satan is smart and it is his world for now. But he will lose the end game so it's best we stick to ours.

Anyhow, the purpose of human beings seems like a genuine mystery. We really do not know or remember where are we from. What is our collective or individual goal or what any of this is actually. Once that feeling settles in it's quite eerie that we do not have a source or a destination beyond a lot of conjecture and speculation.

David Icke's work seems to be borderline fantasy but some of what he says make sense. However I say that being part of this world is not too bad after all, we still get to live and enjoy the good things, so let's make the most of it while we still can.

About citizenship, marrying a Indian woman is the easiest way to do it faster, though you possibly will have to stay in her Indian house for 10 years or so before you are handed your own passport. There are other means of naturalization as well like purchasing a residence and living abroad and then applying for citizenship after a few years have passed by. Life is really boring here and in no way your children would like any of this. With your citizenship and passport I recommend moving to Thailand which is a far better and cohesive society that accepts foreigners for permanent residency. Apparently lot of French and Italian restauranteurs have moved to Thailand for full time work and living. Even many folks from India have settled there. It's a lot easy on the pockets while providing world class tourism and the real Asian spirit. India is nothing spiritual anymore and any one who comes here in search of peace of mind or spiritual journey must be genuinely misguided by marketing. It's basically a mafia state that just gets by. And Asian values are sorely missed. People do not respect their elders or talk properly to each other. People are normally by default hostile and distrustful towards each other. Taiwan and South Korea are also great Asian countries to live in from what I hear. Delhi in India is the only city being the capital where red tape is minimum and where a fair amount of expats have set shop. They mostly have business goals and it's a cheap city to live in once you have accomodation taken care of. It also has the highest amount of air pollution very much like Shanghai where the morning starts with a think smog. Health concerns are at critical levels and even I personally do not visit Delhi for this reason. You could however try to settle somewhere colder and higher like Ladakh or Nepal where you might find your peace and quiet. I have had enough of Asian culture and I can see through most of their rituals and traditions and mindset so I want different. Europe still has a lot to offer in my opinion.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 18:29

The problem with citizens wage is that it will bring the power back to the public. Businesses won't be able to buy the public's time by paying them low wages anyways so these entities will not benefit from it. If people have their rent and utilities taken care of and if everyone has a place to put up, it would be an utopia in the making. Police and crime would become more and more redundant as people will be satisfied and educated and afford to live as they want and utilise their time to do what they want.

 

Yeah I know, fancy that ;)

 

That's what I meant when I said I can't see it happening.  This paranoia people have about it creating a society where people won't want to work, is complete nonsense.  You only have to look at Switzerland to see the right way to do things.  There is no such thing as povery or high unemployment rates in Switzerland.  In Swtzerland, people who don't work get a guaranteed allowance that is greater than those who do work in other countries.  There is one very obvious reason for all of this, and it's simple, it is because in Switzerland, the public have control over the government, not the other way around.  The government work for the good of the people because they have the right system over there.  The government of Switzerland know that they don't stand a chance against the people of Switzerland.  This results in a fair and functioning economy with zero poverty.

 

The way of the Swiss is living proof that every other government out there is an epic fucking failure (with some obviously more epic than others).

 

What we need in England and the world over, are governments that are controlled by the people for the people - just like Switzerland.

You wanna live somehere that's run properly and fairly? ... Switzerland, man, Switzerland ;)


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 20:15

About citizenship, marrying a Indian woman is the easiest way to do it faster, though you possibly will have to stay in her Indian house for 10 years or so before you are handed your own passport.

 

So what you're saying, Vic my good man, is that all I need to do is come to India, find myself some raven-haired green-eyed Indian goddess to spend the rest of my life with, and live in her house for 10 years?

Dude, tell you what, as you're the ladies man here, you let me know how desperate those Indian Goddesses are for 'English Husbands' in their early forties, and I'll be over there ... pronto.

 

For starters, I thought the vast majority of Indian women were under some sort of religious restriction and were not allowed to marry outside of it.  I have no reservations whatsoever about marrying an Indian women, but I can't see an Indian women giving-up her religious connection to her parents to be with me.  Such a woman would be a keeper, but nevertheless, women don't think like that do they, at least not generally.

 

And what exactly do you mean about it being "A Mafia State"?

 

That comment makes me think you're not aware of what goes on in Europe and England, cause no matter what way you see that sort of thing, you have to ask yourself, would you rather live in a mafia state where you have the freedom to protect yourself by playing them at their own game (like you do in India), or would you rather live in a mafia state where effective self-defence is completely taken from you (Europe)?



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Posted 29 August 2017 - 20:50

Well Indian women are for the most part overly traditional but that only applies to the more rural ones. Today's urban Indian women go to night clubs and juggle multiple boyfriends and mostly ape their Western counterparts to a reasonable degree. Many Indian women would love to settle down with an English guy and it's not that they have to break any religious ties nowadays since things are a bit more liberal than before. However in my opinion many of them have had years or generations of female abuse and that sort of filters down to today's women as well. They tend to harbour paranoia and fear rather easily. Also many are not health conscious and do not exercise and smoke and drink. Couple that with their hidden desire to be fair and a society that indoctrinates them with rules all the time, their behaviour and mental health betrays being full of insecurity. The average Indian diet is full of spices, ghee and wheat products which is not too healthy and this quite many of them suffer from bowel syndrome and constipation and delayed mensuration in addition to garden variety anorexia and bulimia. The quest to look fashionable and cool all day long on a limited diet and junk food eventually takes its toll. Honestly sometimes I feel for them even though I have no real sympathy.

Another reason being since my origins are more of an established immigrant, our social norms are very different from rest of India. We have a matrilineal society and the women get first priority and privilege of the family. The daughters and wives get the property and land and the name of the mother propagates to the name of the son and daughters in the family. This ensures that women are bound in duty and happiness from a marriage and that the men remain faithful to their wives. Also inner tribe marriage is not allowed but inter tribal or outsider marraige is encouraged, this ensures genetic vigour and elimination of recessive genes to negligible combinations that in contrast many other communities suffer from. Mary Kom is the first Indian woman to win in the Olympics in Boxing. She also happens to be from our North East states in India where our tribes look more East Asian like the Chinese or Tibetian than mainland Indian.This sort of vigour comes from a society here women are loved and supported. Right now India is a rape capital and 99 percent of that happens in the mainland states in Uttar Pradesh and Southern States. Blatant disrespect of women's rights and a double standard culture in the mainland where they worship women dirties but treat their own women like filth.

So settling down in India would mean knowing the customs and traditions all over again in terms of a foreign culture, in my opinion it's a lot like the Escobar movie, where the boy and girl may love each other but the family itself is entrenched in dirty business and out to actually kill you if needed. Also India will be forever the most xenophobic country in the world, with reason of course. You will always be seen as a foreigner. Our Congress party leader is an Italian woman who married Rajiv Gandhi our erstwhile Prime Minister, she is somewhat accepted becos of a high profile marriage and while the society is tolerant for marriage, other aspects of living will be constrained. Indian women are one of the a most damaged in the world. They may be loving but a lot of that comes from fear and tradition not by default. But yes, some women are worth it but that goes for every country in the world.

Mafia state meaning the level of corruption and nepotism is at an all time high and the power game is played by political affiliations who mastermind a lot of events and incidents all related to party politics. Whoever has more muscle or more money (who purchase more muscle then) usually wins the game.

Europe might take some rights away but is unlike gun laws in the United States, and the last thing I would want is to engage in a gunfight with an American society folk. They are so much in turmoil and struggle that I could dress up as Mickey Mouse and they would shoot me in a heart beat. At least we do not have free gun laws and this gun related paranoia is at an all time low. But violence still continues to extreme degrees everyday. It's just human nature. Women get burned and drowned and maimed by acid or simply lynched or thrown off the roof...the list goes on. Female foeticide is at an all time high. The mainland Indians who I refer to as the Hindus or traditional Indians are the major culprits in all this. This sort of stuff never happens in our tribal societies and states in the North East. To think of it we are actually barbarians with our ancestors all these years never even letting anyone enter our lands and beheading them, yet we are the softest when it comes to our women and children. For a large part of regular India this is sadly the opposite. Male ego has taken over and they find it difficult to maintain a straight face as their lands get repeatedly occupied by foreign invasion and so to compensate for lost pride they mistreat their own folk, quite the opposite to our differing cultures. Europe has lowest levels of teenage pregnancy, gun violence is really negligible, drug abuse is practically non existent certainly as social issue metric, health is way better than USA and other countries, happiness index and life satisfaction is very high in those countries, so something must be going right for some European countries. As we go east in Europe things start to resemble India with poverty, corruption and disorder.

European women have better genes for sure, taller, fairer and more healthier certainly by Indian standards. I am not racist or anything just stating stereotypes and the local mentality and national attitude, as well as simple genetics. India is in a mess with economic concerns and centuries and decades of social evils and mismanagement, it's not the best of times to settle anyways. When a country cannot build roads and have clean parks and roads you know you have a problem. Last year an entire bridge collapsed in my city of Kolkata just because the builders were using poor quality cement deliberately, and just look at the consequences. Those people are in jail now causing the death of so many daily commuters, it became a matter of shame for our state ministers. Cutting corners and compromising others time and values means that our society has become very dog eat dog, mostly just to get through the next day.

Not a good prediction and I see things ending very bleak anyways. Another reason being that geologically India will have recurring earthquakes and eventually it will collapse with Mt. Everest crashing down to collosal destruction of the sub continent. It's a doomed nation in due time. If you look at East Asian countries and South East Asian countries there are a lot of similarities both terms of the physiognomy and languages and cultures and social attitudes. India is smack in the middle with things more common to Middle East and UAE and Pakistan than either Africa or USA or Australia and the like. It's too unique for its own good and is thus comparatively a global minority in terms of demographic count. Yet our nationalist slogan says 'The best in the world, our nation of India' (translated) and not one educated person from India believes this bs.Problems are galore for India and its eventual destruction is just one of them.

Switzerland is a nice country for sure. However it's really expensive and almost like an Utopia. In terms of concept even the French government is quite alike, they pioneered the 17th Century French Revolution after all. The French will not let the government misbehave. However in reality the current government needs to re-establish French rights and not let the Islamic community take things out of hand. Germany is unique becos it has caused so much deaths since WW II that out of goodwill and embarrassement Germany will try it's best to be a model country and society, and judging by its economy it seems to do very well indeed. Between Germany and Switzerland if I have to work in the software industry or experience the rich nightlife and music scene in Berlin then I suppose Germany does it for me. But Switzerland is also a very top contender. More things to do basically. After living in India a perfect government is not what I am exactly looking for since I know from experience I can live in a highly imperfect one too. But Middle East never, I am neither muslim not a radical not a fan of anything that side so it will never pique my interest again that is for sure, I worked in Dubai for a year and I learnt a lot from that stint. So my choices are rather limited but they are world class on what they can potentially offer to someone with full time residency in mind. It's both a risk and a pursuit that is worth it. With your UK passport Of suppose you could live in Switzerland with a lot more ease than any regular Indian passport holder, why don't you try it then if you feel that UK is not what is used to be? Might be worth it the effort.

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 19:36

@Renoised: I posted something on LinkedIn that might just add to the conversation that we are having. It was regarding working remotely as a business lifestyle, something which the business world is touting nowadays as a kool thing. Mostly I think it's a pretentious way to acknowledge those who have beat the system in one way or the other, just so that it remains as a motivator for 9-5 folks to work harder to achieve it, as if that was the only way. Btw you are way senior to me in way of experience and at 40 according to statistics it says it's the age when men feel most content and satisfied with life. Maybe you can shed some light on this? How is married life btw, what is your experience with marriage and kids ? I would love to know that:)

"Just visit Chang Mai to see the tech startups work like this. I believe your personal time is the most important asset you have, money can be replenished but your time will never be hence I prefer to make the most use of it and make milestones and goals a priority rather than money. Money is like bullets, you can feel free to horde them but if you do fail to hit your targets in life and make your bullet collection your achievement, I think that is where a large number of people get it all wrong. Your bullets will either demonetize or devalue or will be stolen by someone else, making use of it is more important than just spending time endlessly collecting it. An expert assassin can kill with one bullet what a regular person would like to horde more and more to feel secure and that fear is the largest reason why an arms race of money has established itself in the current economy which is a diluted form of masking one's insecurity. On the same topic instead of focussing on cash flow day in day out, if everyone spent time to learn one musical instrument, travels new countries every year and widens his or her horizons, writes one novel, plants one tree every 6 months, helps their neighbours and every person that he meets on the way and if everyone invested in their health and happiness instead of fuelling their insecurity and chasing fiat money - then the world will be somewhat on a direction towards a better place. It is also a rather oversimplified process to think that a singular number called your net worth signifies any thing of value over time and your own life. You certainly cannot take your money to the after life so the desire to line ones grave with financial derivatives seems like a very bad move. Sure wealth in its various forms have had implications over the centuries, but in a more civilized society it seems the children are being denied their true childhood and youth their freedom and fire in their blood by stressing them out with just option, make some money or you ain't sh**. Society tells them all this while they are still young so that the indoctrination process remains well ingrained. This vicious cycle is much like the scam and cheating of child marriage where similarly the best time of one's youth is spent on accumulation of fiat currency rather than aiming for anything else of real worth least of all their freedom to do what they really would like - instead they get cheated very early and lose their innocence early too and then it's all good luck if they make it. Forget about mastering 5 foreign languages, exploring opera, building street smart skills with Muay Thai, playing Bach's Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring on fingerstyle guitar, finding time to read Proust or visiting Vietnam in Winter - rather do a regular job first so that security comes first, everything else last. Basically it's all fiat money and it's a fear based economy with a debt oriented business model. Funny thing, even a lot of startups are finding it difficult to get funding from banks becos the established players have made it very difficult for the rest to even enter the game. So it's monopoly now, whatever happened to free markets and freedom of choice either. Time is money, so they say, so use your time well and then make money, but then you realise all that time is spent just making money. Good luck doing anything else with your life AFTER your best years have left you. Ha ha ha biggest joke of the millennium."

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 12:19

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 18:00

@Eatme: Buahhahhahhahhaahhah :) The Renoise demo broke the deal for me. What you need money so badly or what...rent for 6000 euros ...fuuuuuck, so expensive:D

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 22:02

EatMe, that'll never work on Vic, he's obviously very wealthy and can easily afford those rates, but you forgot the most important one of all :D

- Tall European maid to tend to your every need.

 

Vic, thanks very much for the detailed reply, your replies often fascinate me cause I do genuinely have an interest in India  I get a few very unexpected surprises thrown in there with some of the things you say as well.  Take that comment about India being xenophobic.  That has to be one of the most surprising things you've said to me, cause I've always been under the impression of India being a very welcoming country to foreigners.  I've never been to India, but I've read and watched so much stuff that it feels like I have.  Maybe I've just seen too many 'touristy' things among them, but certainly, that comment really surprises me.

 

Regards men being most content in their fourties, lol, I'll let you know when that happens then - you made me feel a whole lot better obout myself :D

 

As for marriage and kids, I'm not married and don't have any kids.  Don't want any either, not unless something radical is done to improve the world situation in general.  I feel it would be completely irresponsible to bring a child into this world right now, so I'd rather not, certainly not in England anyway.  But when I talk about India, my idea was more about finding a woman and getting away from it all, you know, like well-away from it all, living as isolated as possible.  Finding women who like that sort of thing is hard enough even in a persons native land, so the chances of me coming to India and finding one like that I'd say are pretty damn slim - but then again - it might not be - I don't know for sure.  Wouldn't know what parts of India to start looking to be honest, cause India is so large and varied.  It's also one of the most heavily populated I belive, so where does a guy and his women go to escape in India if they want a quiet out-of-the-way lifestyle?



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 20:01

@Renoised: Sorry for the late reply, was out on weekends. Tall European maid definitely does it for me :)

On the topic of which place to get isolated in India, the North East states of Meghalaya and Nagaland are particularly Western culture friendly and the least Xenophobic of the lot in terms of welcoming foreigners from Western countries. This has got to do a lot with how British and American missionaries met with our tribes and spread the word of the Bible when they realised that our Demographic, language, ethnicity and cultures was vastly different from that of early India mainlands. Also because fighting with us meant that we only wanted isolation to begin with and are basically fighting to protect their homes, and we were particularly discriminative onwho the trespassers were to begin with. This meant that fostering a friendship would mean more to penetrate the highly inhospitable jungles and actually learn from one another. Their anthropology goals were achieved along with cultural penetration and spreading of Christianity. Before this happened all the tribes in Nagaland and Meghalaya had animistic religions meaning we worshipped the river gods or the sun god and so on.

So fast forward barely 80 years and here we are at the helm of civilization at 2017. The inner suburbs and villages in Khasi hills are truly isolated in terms of electricity availability and entertainment options if TV and YouTube is more your thing. It's a virgin land of sorts inhabited purely by the native Khasi and Jaintia tribes. Tura and other places in West Garo hills are not my recommendation because the climate is warmer and the villages are very homogenous and self contained. However Christianity is very widely practiced everywhere in these regions and people are very welcome to join their routines. Barring language barriers everything else is naturally available from sunlight and pure air to water and chilly winters and warm summers. However life is also a little tough since you have to be busy with daily chores in a back breaking manner sometimes. Farming and agriculture are the main duties out here.

Apart from this you could always settle in Ladakh area again near the Himalayas and it's very high above sea level and quite cold as well. The tourist culture out there mean that true isolation would be limited though it is kinda peaceful there too.

Kasol in Himachal Pradesh is one more place for a getaway where there are already significant nunbers of German English Israelis setting up permanent camps and shops and who live this hippie and backpacker lifestyle.

I am seeing that more and more people in highly developed countries like Japan, Denmark and Finland and Switzerland and others do not marry early or have children early or even skip having them altogether. It is also found by research that less populated regions are more happy with their community and feel more kinship and closeness than densely populated ones. There is also naturally less violence and crime. Seems many are sharing this world view that having kids in current times of high population count and resource wastage is not the best of decisions, and of course we are reaching critical levels on every chart and meter. However marriage might also mean sharing your time and lifestyle with a girl or boy of your liking and that would certainly be fun when it happens. There would be sacrifices to be made but the pleasure of knowing someone intimately is also a unique experience on its own. Currently live-in relationships are the trend and childless couples are on the rise. It's quite possible that no one wants to make commitments to each other, especially with property and money being divided legally and such entanglements in case things go awry. Curious times we live in, seems it is a naturally occurring social backlash against the population overgrowth and something tells me it's the earth and the universe making us do so, so that we do not become the next dinosaurs.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 23:12

Thanks for the detailed reply, Vic, that's very good of you and genuinely appreciated.  I will have to read-up on the places you mention.  I remember seeing a program once about an area of North East India where, if I recall, they used to have some giant oil company or something.  I remember watching it, seeing the way they live and thinking, well at least they live in idyllic surroundings.  It was very jungle-like if I remember, wish I could remember what it is I'm talking about then I'd be able to ask you about the area.  Regards the way couples live these days, yup, I'm not surprised either.  I don't want that though, just living together.  To be honest I'd rather just stay single than live with someone who isn't important enough to me that we'd just live together - not interested in that.  I'm not old, but I'm not young either, so all I'm interested in as far as relationships go is someone who I can stay with permanently, someone level-headed.  Hotness is secondary to me, so as long as she hasn't got three tits like in Total Recall, or a dick like in the Crying Game, or a giant wart on the end of her nose like some witch, then that's cool with me.  I'll be honest, I can't see me shacking-up with an Indian woman, cause obviously, I'd prefer a woman from my own country/culture before I would look at others, but definitely the thought of coming to India and getting away from it all is always very tempting.

 

BTW, have you ever seen that series Paul Merton made about India?

 

Best series I ever saw about India  Each week he used to look at a different aspect of it, so one week might be the wealthy, one week might be the poor, another the political side, another the criminal side, another the fun side, although all of it was fun to watch to be honest.  It's called "Paul Merton in India", not sure what you'd make of it being a native, but his program really helped increase my interest in India.  Best series I saw on the subject, there was one episode he looked as if he was crying for laughing so hard :lol:

 

It's on DVD if anyone is curious, well worth a watch even if you're not interested in India - it's very entertaining.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 13:33

Thanks for sharing your ideas :) I can understand what you are saying. Regarding Paul Merton's serire, yes I saw them all and enjoyed it a lot as well. His style of presentation is actually very realistic and unbiased when it comes down to his reviews and overall episode tone and mood. It's not like some travelogue or Anthony Bourdain like esoteric food investigation but rather a one man's view on what his experiences were during his travels to an Asian subcontinent.

Gordon Ramsay also has travelled quite well and his episode from Great Escape in India where he visits North East India in Nagaland and gorges on local food and culture was a very good theme indeed, and very accurate depiction of rural or interior life in that particular state. There are also some national geographic documentaries on these regions.

Mira Nair's Unesco film on the Garo or 'Achik'(mountain men) culture is more an anthropological documentary with music by Nitin Sawhney and while I find it a little tripe to my tastes and certainly not a representation of modern Garos, it does have a place as a cultural annotation of an ancient tribe albeit done as a day to day life narrative in one small village than an actual cultural overview.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:52

Thanks for the heads-up.  I think I know the one you're talking about when you said "Great Escape".  I remember seeing it advertised but never bothered with it cause it's got Gordon Ramsay in it, and I cannot watch anything with Gordon Ramsay in it cause I simply cannot stand the guy.

 

The other one wouldn't interest me either to be honest, due to it being about tribes etc.  What I love about India is how varied, vibrant, and gritty it is.  And India might be about survival of the fittest but that's the same wherever you go.  But the good thing about India is you're free to try and survive, whereas in England, the government have everything so tied up against the poor, that it's got to the stage where it's illegal to try to survive because they've put the poor in an endless loop of slavery and accountability for situations the government create!

 

Anyway, Vic, this has gone wildly off-topic, I do apologise for that, and as I said, best of luck finding a sofa :)