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#1 Ken Gibson

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 13:54

I'm just getting started with renoise and starting to record external sound sources like my bass guitar.

I'm able to get a decent sounding recording but can't see any input level options with which to raise the

volume of the signal. Therefore slap-bass is about the right level but quieter fingerpicking is clearly not

optimal (looking at the graphical waveform representation). I realise the sample can be made louder using

the impedance toggle - post recording - but would prefer to set levels the traditional way. 



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 14:43

Perhaps the Native / Effects / Gainer (bottom left in Renoise) can help you?


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 17:26

yeah, try the gainer.

#4 Ken Gibson

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 20:38

thanks for the replies - I can't find any tabs with 'gainer' written on them - is this an input level control or a post-recording option such as the sample volume (shown as db -/+). It's amazing there isn't a simple level slider and my soundcard is already at full volume so the only way is down and I need more volume to ensure the best audio capture. 



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 22:37

The gainer is an audio effect you can add to your track effect chain. See http://tutorials.ren...i/Effect_Chains

When you record, you can choose whether to apply effects from a track to the recording.


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 22:53

But speaking to your concern about getting the best audio capture: applying a gainer in this way can't improve recording quality.

 

 

I realise the sample can be made louder using the impedance toggle - post recording - but would prefer to set levels the traditional way. 

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "impedance toggle - post recording." You might want to take a look at the docs for your audio interface / sound card. 


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:02

To add "Gainer" effect, select the column you want to play/record on.

Then go in the small window at the bottom left (Renoise v3.1), in Native / Effects:

 

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Expand that node, find "Gainer", double-click to add:

 

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 10:20

Thanks MattD and Sokoban for the helpful guidance - I've discovered the gainer effect and sure enough it does increase volume effectively however I realise that the software has no specific input gain to optimize levels on recording for example a bass-guitar. I'm buying an external audient ID14 sound interface and hopefully that will give the necessary gain (via the usual controls on the device).



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 23:09

I think to do what you want you'll need to use the gain knob on your audio interface... all of the solutions so far are about changing the signal gain after it's already been recorded.

 

What interface are you using to record into the computer?



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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:18

Hi Pat - yes I agree with you - I'm using an internal soundcard at the moment but will be getting an Audient ID14 interface soon which ought to do the trick regarding gain control on external instrument input :)


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