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Posted 18 December 2017 - 00:45


Also limitations on guitar,

 

bro guitar has no limitations ...

 

just listen to Omar Rodriguez Lopez

 



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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:02

Oops. Slow-core was not part of the equation... I don't have my metal genres straight  :badteethslayer:

Ehem, whatever. 
 

However Messhuggah does their rhythm very well indeed, but so does Venetian snares for that matter.

Now back to computer software usage, if the band's really used Trackers to produce music I really want to hear them !! Pls provide some links.

 

Yeah, imagine a cross between Meshuggah and Snares. That would be .... 

:eek:

 

Buuut....the point I was trying to make was not so much about formal music education, or knowledge of music theory. It was more about production techniques and the whole aesthetic surrounding these styles. 

Maybe a better example than Def Leppard would be Pantera, when I first was exposed to this music, I really liked how insanely tight it sounded - part trash metal, part industrial techno. In this case, I don't think it matters so much how the actual record (say, Vulgar Display of Power) was actually produced, because these guys are obviously excellent musicians. But I believe that they inspired a lot of people to get into the game, using - among other things - trackers. We're talking the 90's after all, where the studio started moving into the bedroom. 

 

I don't have hard evidence for this claim, but think about it: the boundaries between composing, producing and performing is pretty blurry nowadays. It's a great place to be  :)


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:04

Excellent musicianship and great performance but obviously I don't see any chord changes so it's kinda drony to me. Plus drums are not electronic:( (he hee)

Try to figure out what this guy is playing:



Get some aspirin:)
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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:10

Excellent musicianship and great performance but obviously I don't see any chord changes so it's kinda drony to me. Plus drums are not electronic:( (he hee)

Try to figure out what this guy is playing:



Get some aspirin:)

i love holdsworth......fucking genius....even Yngwie Malmsteen once said that playing his solos....were a fucking nightmare

 

but i like rock/jazzy music as a whole....the drums the ...bass the voice the keys an the guitar....

 

ultimate of the ultimate

 

pink floyd...simple  af....in compare with any holdsworth ..or holdsworth inspired piece

 

and still

 

best music ever :)

 

 


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:16

" think about it: the boundaries between composing, producing and performing is pretty blurry nowadays. It's a great place to be :)"

@Danoise: That I totally agree !

I can certainly understand the point you are making in terms of how studio and recording techniques came to be about and how earlier versions of technology including tape machines and samplers were exploited by the rock music crowd just as the electronic crowd does it. Infact the ondes martonet or mellotron(one of them) used tape loops on each key to record sounds and sound when pressed on their keys, so it predates any commercial genre as we know it.

Messhuggah and Venetian snares is my wet dream too. (Boy oh boy oh boy!)

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:22

@Land of Bits: Pink Floyd is cool though, real pioneers of the rock and psychedelic sound. Actually it's all vibrations in the same medium and pretty much comparable instruments, so like food one is not necessarily better than the other and both are nourishing to the mind body and soul. Also variety is very welcome even in terms of audio food, imagine if biscuits or steak were the only food available....shiiit. I do listen to rock albums from time to time to try to learn something even if I don't really enjoy it.
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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:26

for me the greatest music its the music that endures the test of time.....:)

 

i've been listening to them....... since i was 14 years old now im 25 and im still ..listening over and over this stuff...


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:30

That is a very reliable benchmark!
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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:32

That is a very reliable benchmark!

fuckingg agreeeee with you now :)


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 04:58

love the compos evry year but on the pink Floyd thing... look at the date on the dark side of the moon album then revisit that album's songwriting but RLY revisit production style and quality in comparison to others then... jezzus mf xrist! wtf? wayyyy into the future. for any style of music. so rly they were a bit better when they dropped some of the san franxlondon trappings but rly however overplayed this album sounded gawd damn good no matter what era the art and production are eternally post modern.


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"...sounds... but, not music..."

 


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 17:53

love the compos evry year but on the pink Floyd thing... look at the date on the dark side of the moon album then revisit that album's songwriting but RLY revisit production style and quality in comparison to others then... jezzus mf xrist! wtf? wayyyy into the future. for any style of music. so rly they were a bit better when they dropped some of the san franxlondon trappings but rly however overplayed this album sounded gawd damn good no matter what era the art and production are eternally post modern.

 

bro you're my nu best friend here jjj :)



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Posted 18 December 2017 - 22:11

 

Like dj_porter said, for the Live-setup of Hysteria, Rick Allen was using a Simmons SDS-7.
He was firing off samples from an AKAI S-900 sampler, containing samples from his old acoustic (Ludwig-) kit, and blending them with the SDS-7's sounds.


For the Hysteria recording-sessions, it is unclear to me, what samples Mutt Lange/Rick Allen were using exactly. I think they were using a Fairlight CMI to sequence songs (...maybe even to fire off drumsamples), and an AMS sampler (heard in the middle-part of 'Rocket', it was used to trigger bits and snippets of other songs), but the AKAI S-900 would be available since January 1986, so that's a possibility, too.

 

Man I never would of thought Def Leppard was so tech behind the scenes. Dunno why I find this so fascinating. I suppose it would make sense.

 

Hysteria was the first cassette I got as a kid :yeah:


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 02:30

WINNERS ANNOUNCED:

 

 

Congratulations. Winners private message me your emails so I can send you some presents over Paypal.

 

Happy 2017.


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 02:42

ohhhhhh shittttt jjjjj

that was awesome :)

 

 

fuckkkk awesomeeeeee :)

 

congratulation to the winners :)


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 03:34

Awesomeee selection, loved the hockey idea! Congrats to the winners and thanks to Conner for the selection video! It was a great year, can't wait for the next one! :D


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 04:32

Awesome! Real fun idea using a hockey strip for target practice :) Felicitations to all the three winners 👏👍 Looking forward to next year's MBC compo.🤓

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 05:03

Hahahha lovely video! Thanks again for this shit! :D 


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 08:34

Congratulations to all the winners and thanks for the effort with selecting a winner (edit: ...and with running this compo through the years), Conner_bw. I have no experience with hockey, but your daughter just might be a talent ;-)

 

Once again: Thanks for all the (creative | inspiring | useful | harsh | funny | nice ) comments on my track. I hope to come this close to winning a 2nd prize again next year smile.png

 

Felicitations, happy holidays and all that!


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 12:29

That was cool. Rigged, of course  ;), but cool. Thanks for making the selection interesting and fun!


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 13:36

That was great fun! Looking forward to the next mutant breaks :)


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 17:27

That was cool. Rigged, of course  ;), but cool. 

 

I have no complaints as I was situated nicely in the middle. Definitely gave me a slight edge when it comes to hockey-puck distribution in narrow back alleys  :badteeth:

 

Btw: I have gotten requests for stickers from the following ppl: PBF, ulrikkold, mars.64, Land of Bits, Komu and BotB. 

If you were among the finalists and want to get some sticky love, send me a PM within the next few days. 


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 17:43

Fun fact: The stickers are worth more than third prize!  :badteeth:


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 17:56

Congrats to the winners! That was a fantastic way to choose the finalists. I had to get my wife to watch as well it was so awesome. Can't think of a better way to choose a winner then back alley slapshot.

Cheers Conner_BW for doing this. Can't wait for the next one :w00t:


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 18:21

Fantastic, what a finale, hahaha! Congratulations to the winners! Conner, thanks a kazillion for hosting this shit the past 10 years. You're an inspiration and a crazy motivator. Danoise and Achenar, thanks for enabling Dac and allowing all this shit to happen!

THANK YOU everybody who joined, for this batch of insane music! Many happy listens, the fun aint over yet! 
 

Many cheers for the votes, support and kind words, despite my song being 10 years too late theme-wise. Being an angry internet punk has finally payed off!

 

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 18:49

 i wonder who's going to ...take  the lead in hosting the comp for next year :)


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