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#151 danoise

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 13:40

@ffx: yeah SSD makes an amazing difference, doesn't it?  ^_^
For performance reasons, we're initializing multiple libraries simultaneously only when they are located on different drives
(this is also why symlinking on non-SSD drives can actually worsen the performance). 
 

Thanks I'll try it

 
But it's a shitty workaround for what seems like a more fundamental problem. Hmm.
 

Is there any way to set where the database is built? I am having read-only problems with my samples folder. For some reason however I change the permissions, it cannot write the database

 

Have you tried the simplest possible approach, copying over the files into a new folder? I guess so. 
What happens if you try with just a few samples, on different drives?

 

Sounds like either the application has somehow not got enough privileges, or your HDD has very restrictive access.  

But it's anyone's guess - I know I have a few folders on my machine that are impossible to delete, for whatever reason. 

It's a shame that you've been missing out for so long - I've been using some of your libraries for testing and evaluating results, during development. 
And I can vouch for the results - Sononym does a mostly good job at understanding your samples  :walkman:


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 16:16

danoise, nice would be if you could exclude specific dirs within a library, by right clicking them and then choosing "exclude", then sononym could place a ".exclude" file to the dir or so.


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 16:08

The application is awesome, though I have one kinda serious problem - my asio driver have problem with multiclient tasks, which means I cannot use my DAW and Sononym at the same time without pops and crackles :(.

 

Either ability to free audio driver when changing app focus or vst plugin (better) would be great.



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Posted 08 September 2018 - 21:47

Bought it even without trial test run )

Scanniiiinnnng now.. Will get back later with reports and feature requests.

 

Good luck with your new and shiny, unique smart and beauty app, guys !



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 11:20

It works like a charm, i'm absolutely in love in it!

Similarity search is super helpful for sound design, i can't imagine how i lived w/o it before ))

 

Here is my feat.requests, suggestions:

 

1) Please add ability to sort/filter results by exact note within the octave, for example i need to get listed all C# files usefully in one list no matter which octave it is, which is currently impossible.

2) I was surprised that it's impossible to select multiple categories in lower categ. panel (with Shift button for example). It's counter-intuitive. Frequently i need more than just one category to extend search results. 

3) I suppose it would be super useful if user'd be able to make multiple searches.

.. I mean, for example you got one search setup with all categ's, filters, similarity attributes proportions, search words... It get quite time to set-up your search properly. 

And i want to stay with this setup, and open another `search Tab`, where i could set-up another search, and then if i need to get back to previous search results setup/Tab.

 

Anyway, the app is a beauty! Fresh minded and ultra useful once you get it right! 

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 11:31

The application is awesome, though I have one kinda serious problem - my asio driver have problem with multiclient tasks, which means I cannot use my DAW and Sononym at the same time without pops and crackles :(.

 

Either ability to free audio driver when changing app focus or vst plugin (better) would be great.

 

 

Can't you run your interface with ASIO4ALL instead, since it supports multi client access.


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 17:21

Hey ceejay, thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated!!

 

Here is my feat.requests, suggestions:

 

1) Please add ability to sort/filter results by exact note within the octave, for example i need to get listed all C# files usefully in one list no matter which octave it is, which is currently impossible.

2) I was surprised that it's impossible to select multiple categories in lower categ. panel (with Shift button for example). It's counter-intuitive. Frequently i need more than just one category to extend search results. 

3) I suppose it would be super useful if user'd be able to make multiple searches.

.. I mean, for example you got one search setup with all categ's, filters, similarity attributes proportions, search words... It get quite time to set-up your search properly. 

And i want to stay with this setup, and open another `search Tab`, where i could set-up another search, and then if i need to get back to previous search results setup/Tab.

 

1. Absolutely, we need an "ignore octaves" switch. And a right-click for entries: "Find samples matching this pitch" for that matter :-)

2. Indeed, would make sense but didn't make it into this version. 

3. Save a search, recall it later on - check! This would very powerful, and we're thinking that it should be able to store a reference sound as well. This way, you could store the entire query with all filters, even while in similarity search mode.

 

 

@ffx/Jackie: yes, this has been brought up elsewhere. Asio4All might do the trick here even if it ain't pretty.

Releasing the driver won't fix the problem, unfortunately as you'd have to ask the DAW to do the same thing. Some DAWs have this feature, but far from all 

(the common lack of multi-client support is the single worst thing about ASIO drivers...)


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 17:34

Save a search, recall it later on

Interesting. Please give a hint how could i do it ?
Also, reloading search will take time to refine it's results ? If yes, than the search Tab's approach should be more straightforward and giving user ability to maintain and configure multiple searches simultaneously.

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 19:24

Interesting. Please give a hint how could i do it ?

 

Ah, with all the "would be" and "should be" I thought I was being clear that it's (also) a planned feature  :blush:

 

Btw:I hear you with the tabs. But try the following: switch between a couple of libraries, enable and disable filters etc. - and then hit the "back" button to traverse back in your browsing history. Then imagine that a saved query would be nothing more than a "snapshot" of this history, which you can then apply to whatever results you might have in front of you. 


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 19:28

Cool! Can't wait for further updates)
Hope you doing well and people digging your approach! (and buying the app))

Keep my fingers crossed for you guys.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 16:47

Can't you run your interface with ASIO4ALL instead, since it supports multi client access.

Thanks for the hint! For some reason ASIO4ALL works really lousy with my interface. In fact, it doesn't work at all in shared mode. I had more luck with asio driver that comes with FLStudio, but the performance is also less than good. So yeah, vst version would be awesome.


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 17:10

Hi,

 

WAVs containing Vorbis Codec would be played and analyzed by Sononym, but played normally with the VOX audio player (which presumingly using the same API?). For example any sample of the FLStudio sample lib.


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Posted 15 September 2018 - 10:49

grymmjack posted a couple of youtube vids on Sononym -

he's got a pretty intense sample collection - more than half a million sounds!! 

 

 

 

Especially cool to me is how he's exploring the filter panels (around the 28:00 mark) :D


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