Jump to content


Photo

CAN I HAZ INSTRUMENT MACRO IN INSTRUMENT?

phrase phrase editor instrument renoise midi

  • Please log in to reply
3 replies to this topic

#1 beatsgo

beatsgo

    Member

  • Normal Members
  • PipPip
  • 25 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 03 June 2018 - 17:04

Couple of people have been inquiring me about a recent post on my twitter account:
 

qyNlQoH.gif

 

This is what you're able to do in an instrument: select phrases. It's very simple, you only need a LFO and MIDI/Instrument Macro.

 

Let's talk about how we select a phrase normally on Renoise. Typically we either use the ZXX command, select from the list of phrases on an instrument macro module, or command the program CC. However we don't really have that flexibility to use either of those within an instrument due to obvious things that you shouldn't be doing like having an instrument it's own macros. Or could we?

I some how discovered this by accident.

 

 

What I found out while fouling around with doofers is I CAN STUFF A MIDI/INSTRUMENT MACRO WITHIN A DOOFER, THEN THROW INTO AN INSTRUMENT'S FX CHAIN.

 

bNz773K.png

 

4ZTXRaU.png

 

OhUVDgL.png

 

The good thing is the macro/midi commands are only restricted to itself so you're not modifying anything outside of itself.

As for the phrase selecting and randomizer, the LFO has to be set to point mode and you'll have to do some wacky multiple value of .788%. This will give you the correct stepping between no phrases, through all phrases, and lastly hit keymap for 100%.

It's very simple to set a doofer's macro to a MIDI's program automation slider so you can select a phrase. But this is not possible with instrument macro. I don't know why, it just what it is.

 

eHqUiy3.png

 

The only way around it is to bring in an LFO into the doofer and setup the LFO to control the Instrument Macro Mopdule. See below the LFO setup. The macro should be controlling the reset/positioning.

 

YNO9r0v.png

 

From there, I can insert another LFO and enable randomize on it. Set the destination to the LFO's Reset and we get randomize phrase selection. Or if you want to keep it self contain, set the randomizing LFO to the macro for the example image setup above.

 

HbCV350.gif

 


Edited by beatsgo, 03 June 2018 - 17:11.

  • Guest_ffx_*, radian and Meef Chaloin like this

#2 Psynapsex

Psynapsex

    Local Chief Member

  • Normal Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 211 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Synthesis, Electronics, & Finance (Equity Research Analysis Intern)

    I'm a big fan of Venetian Snares, Psykovsky, Richard Devine, and The Advent.

    I've been using Reaktor 5 since 2008, and love the thought of a real analog modular synth.

Posted 03 June 2018 - 19:53

How do you reset lfo to get the phase to sync with phrase or song?

#3 beatsgo

beatsgo

    Member

  • Normal Members
  • PipPip
  • 25 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 04 June 2018 - 02:55

How do you reset lfo to get the phase to sync with phrase or song?

Key Tracker. You can make it a proper reset by placing another LFO in there dedicated for a starting position. See picture below:

KJWpUa5.png



#4 Psynapsex

Psynapsex

    Local Chief Member

  • Normal Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 211 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Synthesis, Electronics, & Finance (Equity Research Analysis Intern)

    I'm a big fan of Venetian Snares, Psykovsky, Richard Devine, and The Advent.

    I've been using Reaktor 5 since 2008, and love the thought of a real analog modular synth.

Posted 04 June 2018 - 04:33

I see, just set the range to like C-0 or something. Screen real estate is expensive around here lol





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: phrase, phrase editor, instrument, renoise, midi