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#1 El°HYM

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 18:22

Interesting read with a 'mac - loving' mr.linn  :walkman: good view on his perspective here...drunken drumz would be the flip-side, though.

 

How important are a few milliseconds? When it comes to sequencers, they can mean the difference between a perfect groove and a sloppy mess. We talk to drum machine pioneer Roger Linn to discover the secrets of perfect musical timing and find out why the swing of his MPC sampler series remains so highly rated.

 

https://www.attackma...gic-mpc-timing/


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 19:30

Possible related post/thread -> http://forum.renoise...mands/?p=365366


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:35

Was thinkin ur link's leadin 2 sum #flat - earth whateva 4 a short moment...but then saw Dblu€'s eye & sum cryptic numbass. tnx  :drummer:

Possible related post/thread -> http://forum.renoise...mands/?p=365366


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 20:21

Was thinkin ur link's leadin 2 sum #flat - earth whateva 4 a short moment...

Nah, you were just wishful thinking sir ;)



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 20:59

& BLOCKED  :ph34r:  :yeah:


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Posted 08 July 2018 - 11:20

Elhymn who or what is blocked?


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 15:15

..the funny part is, that me alr. blocked u & ur 50+ Aliases, too:

 

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 16:37

I already blocked you when you were born. But sadly the blocking thing in the forum doesn't work that good, so I still have to read your utter nonsense spread around the forum.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:45

Was thinkin ur link's leadin 2 sum #flat - earth whateva 4 a short moment...

Talking of flat earth, did you manage to sort out your trouble with Renoised El°HYM?  I wonder what happened to Renoised?  We know Vic travels the world with his portfolios...



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:47

Renoised IS Elhymen.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:10

Renoised IS Elhymen.

Wow!  A bold statement Hans.  So is Renoised also Murderator then?  If that the case then gee, I feel so so stupid being played like that and to think I actually fell for it.  That was brilliant.  I never would've thought of that.  Fan my brow and call me Moses.



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:10

I have to say that I found the Renoised personality the most likeable one of all. Now he seems to believe he is a god (of Renoise??) and also behaves like that. I have no idea how he came to this conclusion.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:30

I see.  To paraphrase Renoised himself, you just don't know who or what you are dealing with eh?

 

I think composing (proper) music really is that difficult.  Must be to spend time doing this.



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:30

Back to the original topic, I am not sure what is so special about the points Roger Linn states in his interview? Can you explain to me? He seems to talk about simple shuffle. I know from back in the days when I made house music with Cubase, that actually slight variations in shuffle per track and also slight timing offsets will bring a song to life. Renoise pretty much is not very friendly when it comes to such advanced quantization. I even would say, except for some special cases, a global shuffle option only is pretty harmful.

 

Also those old devices like LM1 actually had quite a huge timing imprecision, maybe thats what it is about. Just like slight humanization.


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 19:34

I just wanted to share this free thing here: https://samplesfromm...mpc60-from-mars

 

Iirc, it also contains some MIDI clips of various MPC swing settings (might have been in the paid equivalent). What I notice is that all notes except the first on-beat are placed slightly before the grid. Not sure if these are 100% accurate captures, but if they are, I'm guessing that the MPC has a personality of giving a slight "rush" until the next beat.


Edited by joule, 14 July 2018 - 19:36.






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