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#1 Tumulte



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 01:08

Hi !


I try to use Jam Origin Midi Guitar 2 in Renoise. It basically takes audio input and spits MIDI notes to the host.


Problem : I have no Idea how to access said MIDI from within tracks. 


I've also tried to use the standalone version of Midi Guitar but Renoise makes all sorts of cracks and pops when both are opened.


Thanks for your help



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:22

Try this.Put your midi guitar on instrument slot 00 and the instrument you want to control on slot 01.

Now while you are on midi guitar go down left  and in effects choose routing-line input.Now go to plugin tab for midi guitar and there is an option at the left for midi routing.Press that and choose slot 01.This should work.This is for Renoise 3.1

Here i am using another midi plugin





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Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:07

Thanks for the comprehensive answer. Unfortunatly it is an effect and not an instrument.


If I use VST FX alias I don't see any routing option. 

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 11:06

maybe you need for Renoise a virtual Midi Patchbay (virtualMIDI, MidiYoke)



After using it as an effect you will probably start to wonder how to get the MIDI output from MIDI guitar into your DAW and into its piano roll. Most DAWs have ways to route the midi output from MIDI Guitar to other places and if not you can always fall back to using the standalone version with a virtual MIDI loop. On Mac OS X, virtual MIDI is built in. On Windows you need to install a virtual midi driver.


Renoise Blog: Advanced Midi Routing for Renoise


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Posted 17 August 2018 - 12:00



I've already tried the standalone version with a MidiLoop, but it makes renoise cracks all over the place (even without any audio being processed into midi). They can't seem to be able to coexist.


That's why I was looking for an internal solution

Edited by Tumulte, 17 August 2018 - 12:00.

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 21:15

I contacted the guy from Midi guitar and he confirmed : the standalone solution is a no go (both ASIO coexist poorly).


So, I'm left with internal midi routing. Is there anyway to catch midi messages sent to renoise by an FX vst ?

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 23:47

Hope I'm not to late on this, but I have been using these two for a while. I prefer using Renoise for MIDI Guitar over Ableton. I realize we may not have the same hardware and what works for me may not work with your system. I will try to explain how I do it.


First, If I want to be able to convert my guitar signal to midi AND be able to hear/process my guitar signal in Renoise, I found I have to split my guitar signal. I use a Saturnworks Passive 2 Channel Summer/Splitter  in reverse. I think any method of splitting should work. I have an AKAI EIE Pro: I use channel 1 or 2 for MIDI Guitar input and 3 or 4 for Renoise input.


In Midi Guitar I set my audio channel to 1 or 2. I set MIDI Output to "LOOPMIDI PORT".


In Renoise set MIDI Input device to "loopMIDI Port". This must be done for each instrument you wanna control(I stack instruments, sometimes sending midi to hardware synths).

For your guitar sound, the Line Input device. I have been setting mine up in a instrument. I find the sample effects are great for setting up parallel fx chains, kinda like the fx racks in Live.


I will state I am using MIDI Guitar II Beta 4. A friend gave me a copy when he was testing. I'm not sure the latest versions will work. I think I'm gonna buy it, just keep forgetting and putting it off. I want to play guitar and sound like Aphex Twin, but it sounds more like Autechre most the time. Goals. Need more Tylenol.


Oh, I use loopMIDI for my virtual midi. Simple and it works. https://www.tobias-e...e/loopmidi.html

Edited by Mansion Rollers, 27 August 2018 - 00:45.

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