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#1 AdamWysokinski

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 18:57

Hi,

Can anyone confirm that current Renoise version is compatible with latest MacOS version (10.14, Mojave)?

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Adam



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Posted 24 September 2018 - 19:36

AU doesn't work since 10.13 in Renoise. So I assume that it will be still the case in 10.14.



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Posted 24 September 2018 - 19:46

AU doesn't work since 10.13 in Renoise. So I assume that it will be still the case in 10.14.


Thanks. Could you please specify what is the problem with AU? They don’t work at all or this applies only to specific plugins?

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 20:00

A lot of AUs won't load presets from songs saved in 10.12 or earlier, because Renoise cannot detect vendors ids anymore in Audiounits, so it all will turn to 0. So if you save the preset then in 10.13, it will load again correctly, but not anymore under 10.12 or before (the way it is saved under 10.13 is wrong).

 

I also now read the Steinberg published a warning not to update.

 

Also 32 bit support is removed, I do not know if that means if that the plugin-bit-bridge will not work anymore then... Only the Renoise team could answer this. Or you test this for me :) EDIT: I now read that 32 bit still exists, only a warning will appear.

 

 

This is interesting, too https://www.sweetwat...-compatibility/


Edited by ffx, 24 September 2018 - 20:13.

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 20:21

Thank you very much!



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Posted 25 September 2018 - 10:47

Adam, can you please check for me under macOS 10.14 if

 

- 32 bit plugins in 64bit Renoise still work/load? e.g. TAL-Reverb2

 

- If you load a song saved pre-10.13, let's say a song using ambience AU and custom settings in it, is the preset destroyed / set to default preset after loading?

 

Thanks



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 21:17

Sorry ffx, I cannot do this since I decided not to ugrade to 10.14, at least now.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 21:05

Adam, can you please check for me under macOS 10.14 if

 

- 32 bit plugins in 64bit Renoise still work/load? e.g. TAL-Reverb2

 

- If you load a song saved pre-10.13, let's say a song using ambience AU and custom settings in it, is the preset destroyed / set to default preset after loading?

 

Thanks

 

Heya ffx,

 

I'm on Mojave. 32bit plugins still work and load. I even tried TAL-Reverb2, so that's a non issue atm. But the next version of macOS is apparently going to deprecate all support of 32 bit executables which really infuriates me. Half my Steam game library on macOS is 32bit and I doubt the devs will update most of them. 

 

Anyway, as for plugins saving parameters without saving the patch/preset, then reloading your song, it depends on the VST/AU. It seems to load Aalto, Sunrizer, Poison-202, Enzyme, and some others just fine. But all my U-He plugins (Hive, Repro 1/5)  always load back into init, even if I did save the patch as a preset. Another curious observation I've discovered are all the tracks I made pre-Sierra load any patch/preset information saved in Renoise songs loads just fine. It's any of the tracks I made after Sierra to current (Mojave) do not load parameters or saved patches. It's really stunting my work right now (Renoise is my main/only DAW) T_T.


Edited by todkon, 03 November 2018 - 21:06.


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Posted 03 November 2018 - 21:29

todkon thank you for that info. For your UHe problems: Do you use the audiounit versions?



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Posted 03 November 2018 - 21:33

todkon thank you for that info. For your UHe problems: Do you use the audiounit versions?

 

Ohhh, so man, right before I checked back to see your reply, I tried saving a song with the VST version of U-He Repro-5 and it loaded the (unsaved) parameters and patch just fine! But the issue where it doesn't work is with the AU. I'm a little happier now knowing that I can finally start trying to mix/master some of my tracks.


Edited by todkon, 03 November 2018 - 21:40.


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 19:22

I don't know... sometimes Renoise crashes when trying to load VST/AU instruments/effect, and sometimes it doesn't.

 

Either way, I'm getting fed up with the expensive non-user trusting computers anyway so I'll probably switch to a Windows PC as my next computer (which should be soon according to the way my Mac is acting up these days.)



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Posted 07 November 2018 - 19:53

Yeah. MacOS is really trying to be like iOS. But man, the interface is so sexy. As long as i can still use BetterTouchTool, Karabiner, TotalSpaces2, Stats Menu, and some other QOL improvements on MacOS; I’ll probably stick with it. But man, Enzyme and Helm Crash like crazy. At least helm is open source. But Humanoid SoundSystems is folding and stated they won’t be updating Enzyme. The rest of my plugins are pretty stable.