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#1 Tumulte

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 23:00

Hi,

 

I try to use the touchOSC and I can tell you it's the best device one can use to control renoise efficiently (especially now you can find an ipad for the price of a midi hardware)

 

YET, there are some frustrating stuffs I'd like to improve… but I can't wrap my head around Duplex (and I'm supposed to be a programmer.

 

Here is the current layout

touchosc_ipad_config.png

 

 

Here is the improved layout :

touchosc_ipad_config.jpg

 

Some priority modifications :

 

- Removing all the right column…which is reserved to some very specific usage

- Add a solo row… 

- Add a post level, post pan shortcut for each track

- Get some place by showing few less device parameters (or maybe side by side)

 

Some very cool stuffs… might be hard tho

- add track and effects names (even it it's just the first 8 letters) 

- add a page with all levels and pan (not shown)

- add a piano page

 

So… yeah… I'm willing to do all that, but I just manage to break duplex. Would someone want to help me make this new stuff ?



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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:12

I guess you already wrapped your head around how configurations and mappings and applications interact with each other.

 

Note that the mappings were added on a "need to have" basis, they're basically all being put to use in one or more of the bundled configurations. So much of this is a question of tweaking or extending applications in order to expose additional mappings -

take the track names, for instance. You'd have to obtain these from somewhere - e.g. the Mixer application or by creating a new application from scratch ... both approaches could be a valuable experience in Duplex hacking. 

 

The piano, well, you'd just have to make room for it somehow :-) I decided to go with a compact, all-in-one layout for this particular layout but as the "iPhone" layout demonstrates you can have multiple pages in TouchOSC. 

 

Happy hacking! And I'd be happy to help a bit out from the sideline, of course. 


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Posted 11 December 2018 - 23:21

Good news, I've finally got to understand that thing and make it work. Got a mixer and solos.

 

Indeed, there's no built-in functions for naming… I'd love to fine a way to make this work some day !



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Posted 12 December 2018 - 22:01

For the mixer tracks, I try to indicate visually on which page a user is. I've came up with several ideas :

 

- creating 4 mixer groups of 16 and split them accross 4 osc pages.

- having some page number displayed (like 2/3)

- having buttons to jumb from page to page  like [1][*2*][3][4]  rather than just prev/next.

 

I'd be ok to hard limit the number of available tracks to 32 if it allowed a better visualisation of where you are.

 

Apparently, none of these are possible out of the box, right ?

 

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Edited by Tumulte, 13 December 2018 - 23:52.


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Posted 13 December 2018 - 23:51

I guess you already wrapped your head around how configurations and mappings and applications interact with each other.

 

Note that the mappings were added on a "need to have" basis, they're basically all being put to use in one or more of the bundled configurations. So much of this is a question of tweaking or extending applications in order to expose additional mappings -

take the track names, for instance. You'd have to obtain these from somewhere - e.g. the Mixer application or by creating a new application from scratch ... both approaches could be a valuable experience in Duplex hacking. 

 

The piano, well, you'd just have to make room for it somehow :-) I decided to go with a compact, all-in-one layout for this particular layout but as the "iPhone" layout demonstrates you can have multiple pages in TouchOSC. 

 

Happy hacking! And I'd be happy to help a bit out from the sideline, of course. 

Alright, that's close to perfection now.

 

However it's really hard to get it working without track name, and sadly I can't manage to figure out how to do something like that behaves like device parameters.

 

Do you think it'd be possible to add a "track_names" thingy available ?

 

(and maybe a "device_names" as well" ?)

 

Roughly : something that behaves exactly like param_names, but for tracks and devices :)

 

With the new ipad and the old ones dropping in price, you'd get the perfect controller renoise has always sorta lacked.

 

I can build the UI… but I'd need a hand on the hacking side if it's possible 

 

Please :)

 

(here's the WiP of the second page, more to come !)

 

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Edited by Tumulte, 13 December 2018 - 23:54.