Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Phrase sustain command (ZS00)


  • Please log in to reply
4 replies to this topic

#1 It-Alien

It-Alien

    Probably More God or Borg Than Human Member

  • Moderator
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9593 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Avellino, Italy
  • Interests:trackers, basketball, chess, tabletennis, programming, writing, drumming, burping

Posted 05 January 2014 - 15:52

something which is missing in phrases is sustain: you cannot hold the playing of a phrase on a specific row until a note-off command is given, and in general you cannot exactly define what happens after note-off command.

here I propose a "simple" solution: a new phrase specific command, ZS00, which puts a "sustain marker" in the phrase pattern: the phrase advancing stops there until a note-off is played.

I cannot think of any other use of values other than 00, but if you have any idea, please tell it here
  • Djeroek, KURTZ, zuo and 1 other like this
my specs:
cpu:Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 (4x2.83Ghz, FSB 1333Mhz)
os:Win7 Home Premium 64bit - OSX 10.9.1 64bit
audio: M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 PCI


Unschemed, hypertechnical tracked music. Sounding different since 1993.

my latest song: Lavender Town Syndrome (11'33", Psychedelic Beast)


where to find more music by me: soundcloud , jamendo , last.fm , napodano.com , facebook

RTFM.gif

("Lavender Town Syndrome, 11'33" Psychedelic Beast)

#2 Djeroek

Djeroek

    Probably More God or Borg Than Human Member

  • Normal Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6661 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Borneo

Posted 06 January 2014 - 01:47

+1

#3 martyfmelb

martyfmelb

    Big Masta Member

  • Normal Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 502 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 06 January 2014 - 15:03

If you have sustain, you'd probably expect to be allowed a sustain loop as well -- so:
ZS00 -- sustain point / sustain loop end
ZS01 -- sustain loop begin

So, keeping it more analogous to sample behaviour instead of (old) envelope behaviour. This implies e.g. the sustain loop never breaks mid-way and always smoothly connects with the release, just like sample loops.



Pay no attention to the following, and don't think of blue skies.

And, like their sample brethren, it seems to naturally follow that phrases should fit under a Note-On Layer and a Note-Off Layer (so your phrase release doesn't have to smoothly connect to your phrase sustain loop). And have a Keyzone Editor (got it) with velocity (don't got it). And have phrases in phrases ... with our newly existing probability effect Yx = recursive automatic song composition = one xrns per genre = end of the music industry as we know it!

Ahhh shit it's 1AM and I have a job to go to in 6 hours...
soundcloud : traxinspace
os win7 / directx11 skin aero default mobo asus m4a 89td pro / usb3 cpu amd phenom ii x6 1055T @ 2.8ghz + mem 8gb 1333mhz ... I think
video ati radeon hd 6900 under catalyst sound onboard realtek under asio4all, audiobox usb
storage local seagate sata 250gb as c:\ external seagate ide 1tb as l:\
utils 7 taskbar tweaker, hoekey hotkey manager, launchy, strokeit mouse gestures, nexus dockbar, winsplit revolution window organiser

#4 It-Alien

It-Alien

    Probably More God or Borg Than Human Member

  • Moderator
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9593 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Avellino, Italy
  • Interests:trackers, basketball, chess, tabletennis, programming, writing, drumming, burping

Posted 06 January 2014 - 15:27

see also Phrase block loop
my specs:
cpu:Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 (4x2.83Ghz, FSB 1333Mhz)
os:Win7 Home Premium 64bit - OSX 10.9.1 64bit
audio: M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 PCI


Unschemed, hypertechnical tracked music. Sounding different since 1993.

my latest song: Lavender Town Syndrome (11'33", Psychedelic Beast)


where to find more music by me: soundcloud , jamendo , last.fm , napodano.com , facebook

RTFM.gif

("Lavender Town Syndrome, 11'33" Psychedelic Beast)

#5 martyfmelb

martyfmelb

    Big Masta Member

  • Normal Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 502 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:15

Ah, I see you've got it all sorted :)
soundcloud : traxinspace
os win7 / directx11 skin aero default mobo asus m4a 89td pro / usb3 cpu amd phenom ii x6 1055T @ 2.8ghz + mem 8gb 1333mhz ... I think
video ati radeon hd 6900 under catalyst sound onboard realtek under asio4all, audiobox usb
storage local seagate sata 250gb as c:\ external seagate ide 1tb as l:\
utils 7 taskbar tweaker, hoekey hotkey manager, launchy, strokeit mouse gestures, nexus dockbar, winsplit revolution window organiser