This reminds me of certain days back in school when i brought a demotape of some personal Amiga MODs. People just refused to believe that an unpolular person like me would have written this music. And i don’t mean to brag here. I am sure others experienced something similar. Some people just never get recognized. Idiots show off but true artists more often hide in the background.
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AI can do good covers of your music when it’s simple (inc. redoing vocals), but struggles to adapt more intricate stuff. So just let it go wild, especially to write its own lyrics.
00:00 - Taxation (Nier Minyou-mata Mix)
01:18 - Kitty Zen Sane (‘Unexpect’edly Lyrical Mix)
05:22 - With Conviction (Ride O’ Prima Knighta Mix)
07:47 - No Mercy For Tyrants (Frantic Beats Alive! Mix)
11:16 - Hydrogen Sulfide Hazing Ritual (Euro-Industrial Was Always Sus Mix)
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I’m not partial to the idea of AI for complete songs and lyrics. But for samples and musical ideas, like how synplant can create patches, I’m all for it. And btw @Achenar, this thread aged perfectly, you called it right on the head.
That new v5 SUNO model sounds really good. Very professional mix, also good harmonics and sound selection. A bit reduced in variety. The level now with the right prompt is so high that you barely can tell the difference to a commerical production anymore… This is not true for all prompts and genres though.
This is kind of sad, after waves of devaluing real creative work, after Spotify only payment a millionth of a penny for your months of work, this seems to devalue it even more. It’s high times for the mass of non creative sales mans and system hypocrites… For the people with high “presentation” skills and low deep thinking skills. Makes me really sad, this direction. The surface shines even more in a very sterile way, the content though is rotten now.
So what would be your conclusion here? Maybe it’s time to not fit your own music into “standard” genres anymore, and not adapt to some famous artists in style (I never had those skills anyway), but instead really try creative stuff, combinations, mixing techniques.
Or maybe it is not devaluing the creative space of making music at all, only the commercial space, which is rigged anyway? Time for real sub culture again?
I’ll try out the v5 model to see what’s improved, since 95% of what 4.5 produced was worthless. It really liked latching onto specific sections and doing the same thing with them, often the mix and/or instrumentation was abysmal, and certain songs always produced bad results.
I’ll probably do a follow-up video to the one that started this thread, cos although the AI music shares a lot of the pros and cons of other AI stuff, it has unique factors that are worth mentioning.
Anyway, here’s another bunch of remixes that Suno 4.5 came up with:
00:00 - Kitty Zen Sane (‘Smooth’ Jazz Mix)
03:18 - Taxation (Ramix)
04:34 - No Mercy For Tyrants (What The ‘J-Pop’ Prompt Came Up With Mix)
08:45 - Taxation (Rimix)
09:45 - Hydrogen Sulfide Hazing Ritual (Industrial-Runoff No Soku-Shi Mix)
13:30 - Taxation (Romix)
14:27 - Kitty Zen Sane (How To Do A Cover Mix)
17:46 - Taxation (Rumix)
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Suno5 is… odd. It mixes more competently while bringing diverse elements together, but is overly keen on forcing its own ‘palatable’ thing, and still can’t really deal with oddball input. Reminds me of how the Midjourney versions adjusted.
The ratio of stuff that grabs me is about the same, so on rare occasions it understands the assignment:
The follow up video is gonna explore this, general AI and creativity, which means I’ve got my work cut out for the end of the year:
2 Renoise Videos
AI Video
Follow-up To The DOOM Video
’Doom’ EP
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Needed more v5 stuff for the video so I made covers from a wider range of my stuff. Also messed around more with the ‘Inspo’ feature, where it generates a new song based on up to four of yours.
00:00 - Born Into Steam (Chorustretched Mix)
01:58 - Arose In Hell
04:05 - Illuminero (Moonlighting In Der Club Of Gore Mix)
07:00 - Control, See? (A Cover Of A Remix Mix)
09:25 - Animal Disturbancy Merit Badge (Scaredy Cat Mix)
11:53 - Born Into Steam (Blackstretched Mix)
13:55 - Appointed Us To Wrath