Think of it in this way, your DAW on the proper Juice..
..Renoise, with full MIDI functionality Controlling Everything
Now you got Proper Sequencer, in your favorite DAW ~ and can have all the automation
and DAW Specific routing options
( i would gladly support Renoise team with this, and i have both Renoise & Redux licenses )
There’s no other option to vote 
Nope, just learn Renoise dude.
Renoise is Best
Renoise is the best choice and I will never leave it … the others are children’s toys against it … You want more from Renoise, it will give you. Especially for me, great cooperation with support. And for me, I never want to leave the tracker DAW Renoise, Which can do OSC server, VST 3 and Omnishpere x… simply everything I need.
I like its core, how it divides the CPU core into tracks … simply everything to perfection over the years.
Why would i need to use Renoise inside Renoise? I got Redux for that. 
Learn to use trackers or use Redux in a DAW. There’s no need to put countless manhours into changing something to make it more accessible to people who don’t need it, or don’t want to learn it in the first place.
No Way
There are two constant tropes that I’ve seen in this forum since I’ve been here and have been going on since before I got here around 2022.
The first is that Renoise maintains everything that it has and just adds the commonly found features of the modern DAW. Which is a completely sound, logical and reasonable request. Even if the Team’s resources and time don’t permit, it is still very reasonable to say these features WOULD be a benefit.
Then there are you weirdo DAW purist who don’t want anything to change or advance in fear of “their” precious DAW possibly becoming mainstream or appeasing a group of people that are probably a lot cooler and sociable than you dorks.
I’m done being nice to you guys, the unfortunate majority, who I’m sure will pop up in this thread as they always do in every thread to voice they’re illogical opinion and give their baseless reasons as to why something shouldn’t change or advance. You literally could download the version of Renoise that YOU want from backstage and stay in your bubble.
This is not the same as suggesting using a different DAW or using some plug-in. Which at this point is the predictable response from you basement dwellers. Notice my opinion is to continue to use Renoise never suggesting anything else just a latter version that will appeal to you caveman who like to make music with sticks and stones still.
However that’s not good enough for you weirdos. Everyone must agree to use and be satisfied with something that has essentially unlimited yet unrealized potential because in your opinion, that’s the only right way to use the DAW. Never seen such a community where so many people are hell-bent on NOT receiving updates.
No surprise that the majority of people who hold the latter opinion’s music sucks ass.
lol. fuck you guys. I’m out
Bizarre take?Why are you so emotional?I’ve been here since 2007 or so,never really heard anybody say they don’t want updates?
Oh my boy, here we go someone who’s gonna focus on the tone of the text rather than what was actually said.
It’s the same thing with you guys I swear 
I’m specifically talking about updates that align Renoise’s features with modern DAWs, for instance, an actual audio sequencer. That does NOT mean that that’s something that I care about. That’s just an example. And you can go through this forum and see losers adamantly request NOT to add things like this.
So stop playing dumb like you don’t see it too because to my recollection you’re one of those guys too.
But like I said, in my previous message, one of you weirdos would jump out of the woodworks and say something stupid
I’m actually not sure what your even talking about?I love the updates so i don’t know where you get that from?I suggested (along with others) multiple different features that were implemented over the years.The only thing i really oppose is a piano roll mainly because of limited resources and the fact that there is a really good piano roll tool.If it got one, it wouldn’t bother me at all,if anything, its a good visual aid for voice leading.
I saw your comment and thought it was a bit all over the place and overly emotional.
Do you have anything you want to see in Renoise specifically?
The first thing i would want is some of the popular tools to be implemented in Renoise, especially the really small things that you would imiagine would already be put in place,for example,multiple pattern interpolation.
I don’t care about limited resources or anything like that and if you’re not one of those guys, then the message wasn’t for you. I’m forming an opinion on the community.
Literally, the majority of guys oppose any type of update that would align Renoise with more modern DAWs. It’s very irritating and lo and behold somehow piano roll always comes up in the conversation lol not taking a jab at you btw. I actually like Renoise and can make it work exactly as it is. Would I like a few limitations to be uplifted? Sure. But I don’t necessarily have the same requests as a lot of people. However, in the majority of these threads guys who request something of a modern update or anything that isn’t in the spirit of a Tracker are shut down and usually jumped by these old school DAW purist. It happens more often than not and the conversation ends up getting derailed. I’m not being nice to these dorks anymore.
Because quite honestly, these guys don’t respect anyone’s opinion if it does not align with the spirit of a tracker and the response is ALWAYS the same (use another DAW, use this plug-in, Renoise wasn’t designed for that, etc) not even giving a thought or the respect to someone else’s request. And I’m someone who would just use a tool or get one designed so it doesn’t necessarily affect me but as a community that sucks so I’m calling these guys out from now on and I’m not being nice to these losers anymore. They never have a valid reason to not implement something that someone is simply suggesting.
Well you made it seem like it was for me.
I just don’t have the same experience at all and I’ve been around a long time now.People have tons of different preferences and suggestions some of them make it some of them don’t. Renoise after all, is a tracker so i get why people would not want to see it being molded to fit other DAWs.
Personally speaking i would like to see renoise being developed on its strengths as a tracker and the unusual things it can achieve based on this fact.Would love to see more commands,more unusual ways of manipulating the patterns,sequences,samples and instruments.
Surprise, members of the Renoise forum are usually using Renoise as their main DAW if not their only DAW, and therefore they’re most likely not willing to pay for a plugin version of Renoise that they don’t need at all. No reason to insult everyone in almost every sentence. As stated by the master himself aka taktik, use Renoise for what it is, not for what it might be. The direction is clear, no reason to complain at all. Be grateful for what you already have. One can’t please everyone either way. Cheers.
Yeah, surprise I actually use Renoise exclusively zero plug-ins or services. Converted to that within the last couple years. I use tools to pull out whatever features I need which is my favor feature of Renoise. Regardless of what tactic said and yes, I was there when he made that post and I agree.
Which is what I’m doing, using Renoise for what it is. However, there is an ideas and suggestions thread, multiple in fact and it is riddled with guys paying no respect to anyone suggestions or even giving them a thought.
Simply responses much like yours “Taktik said this and Renoise isn’t meant for that” That’s not the freaking point of a suggestions and ideas thread. Once again, this isn’t about Renoise. It’s about the community.
I don’t want to be petty, but this thread wasn’t placed in Ideas & suggestions, it’s placed in “General Discussion” seemingly without being intended to actually discuss anything, instead it contains only one single question, which is the thread title. There are only two options, yes or no. If the majority “surprisingly” says no, there’s no need to insult the whole “community” (aka different people with different opinions that use Renoise in different ways when creating different types of music or even noise), right? If one couldn’t handle different opinions, the reasons behind it or any replies, don’t participate. Personally I don’t care if there would be a plugin version of Renoise (which makes more sense than Redux imho) or not. 
You can be petty because I’m kind of trolling lol but I’m serious though…
Even if it’s not in the ideas and suggestions, this type of stuff is happening under every type of section, just look at the responses to the poll. Instead of perhaps discussing why it would be a bad idea(I own both Renoise and Redux and Redux gets zero use) or what the benefits would be, it’s the same cookie cutter response of use it for what it was designed for blah blah blah.
Taktik totally listens to what’s going on, and yes, a lot of people worry about stuff that could be created with tools. They piss me off too. I own piano roll studio AND simple piano roll, and I barely use those mofos because the tracker interface IS superior. At least objectively on a technical level.
But if a lot of guys are screaming, “keep it a tracker” don’t “advance it” and this is evident, don’t make me go in this forum and paste specific examples cause there are loads of them. That gives him no incentive to change things or update things for the overall greater good.
Main example, why the freak is there a 512 beat sync line limit, or a 512 line limit on patterns. That doesn’t even cost anything to update. That’s old school tracker ideology.
And I’ll say it, RENOISE IS NOT A TRACKER!!! it is a digital audio workstation that is tracker inspired. This beast is far more capable than a tracker, and by way of being tracker inspired is far more technically nuanced, and objectively more capable than most of these sucky DAWS on the market. But these DAWs always seem to have the edge on Renoise because they do basic things that Renoise doesn’t(audio sequencer, unlimited pattern length, instruments) and a lot of guys in this community are fervently against adding/unlocking.
Why the 
can we only have 12 samples playing per note?!?!?!?!
And as far as guys who use a tracker and don’t wanna see it become something else, forget those guys. It’s 2026. Do you think FL studio users are gonna give a crap if a tracker interface was added as an OPTION? Hell, half those morons don’t even know python scripting is incorporated or that it has a modular environment plugin 
i’m not a tracker guy or use some other DAW kind of guy. I’m a Renoise guy.
I don’t even think the other trackers should even be a forum topic in these threads. Because F every other DAW and the one I use is two steps away from being the ultimate DAW.
And I’m not gonna stand for anybody’s opinion who’s trying to stop that from happening
@elcasiino OK what’s your definition of a tracker if renoise isn’t included in it