Automation in Phrases?

Is there a way to automate parameters in the phrase editor? Example make macro automations in the phrase editor of the same instrument.

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abuse keytrackers / velocitytrackers with dummy samples.

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Or another way just brought up in another thread:

make dc samples with envelope (or a sample that has the envelope in it) of the automation, then use signal follower in inst.fx to transport automation. This be closer to graphical automation. Each sample/envelope is kind of like an automation clip you can trigger from phrases

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