Btw. Superlux produces for AKG, audiotechnica and phillips. They are rebranded, but the same speakers it seems. Example:
http://www.thomann.de/de/superlux_hd681_b.htm
http://www.thomann.de/de/akg_k_240_studio_kopfhoerer.htm
What you’d have wanted was: “Also, (all my old mixes,) they sound worse than ever.”
Maybe in opposite world?
I kinda understand what you’re saying, but I kinda don’t.
I’m happy with my purchase. But at this point in my life I’m using them more for listening than mixing anyway. So it’s really not an issue. Hoping I can learn to mix with them as well, and of course cross reference the mix on various speaker systems too.
Maybe in opposite world?
I kinda understand what you’re saying, but I kinda don’t.
I’m happy with my purchase. But at this point in my life I’m using them more for listening than mixing anyway. So it’s really not an issue. Hoping I can learn to mix with them as well, and of course cross reference the mix on various speaker systems too.
Using headphones that aren’t coloured by any enhancements can make mixing a little more accurate and a little easier to make the best decisions, as they don’t mask flaws that may not be as easily detected when using other alternatives. For instance, most hifi cans will enhance bass, which may make mixing low range frequencies difficult.
However, you really should avoid using headphones to mix if at all possible.
They are good for checking things like clicks and pops, but as far as for mixing, they present far too many problems (like stereo imaging). Even a set of cheap monitors will serve you better in this department.
Check this link for some reasons why I advise against mixing with headphones:
http://www.bluebearsound.com/articles/headphones.html
This is just my advice, for I think it will serve you better.
As far as your choice in cans, ultimately whatever sounds good to you is good.
If you are happy with your purchase, then that is all that matters and i wish you all the best!
If I mix with headphones, I use Apple EarPods. Figure I might as well mix on what they will most likely be listen to with.
If I mix with headphones, I use Apple EarPods. Figure I might as well mix on what they will most likely be listen to with.
That’s kind of a good point.
In fact since “Beats” are so popular, I wouldn’t be surprised if certain mixes were intended for listening on them. Mostly hiphop I guess.
Although the question remains, if the bass is exaggerated on Beats, then if you made a mix specifically for them, wouldn’t you need to include less bass, and therefore the song would have very little bass on regular setups?
Kinda messed up actually.
^^ Beats are quite average cans. they have been marketed well, though they do in fact cost lest than $20 to make.
As far as mixing in what the listener may be hearing them through (ie: earbuds), it can be a good reference to hear it from your audiences perspective, though I would still avoid using them as your only reference. As I said, it is advisable to mix with speakers, however, that does not mean you cannot use headphones, just don’t rely on only headphones.
This article explains it even better and allows for using headphones predominantly, which may interest you:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/articles/mixingheadphones.htm
Also, allowing for exaggerated bass, testing your audio on as many sources as possible and using a good reference track can help in this department. When using a source such as a bass enhanced hifi or cans, i suppose a little trial error can be employed… making a mix, testing it on various sources and readjusting accordingly. It isn’t impossible, just far easier to work with a source that is as flat as possible. It will just make your life a little easier.
+1 on using multiple references when mixing for sure!
Some low budget approaches I’ve used…
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Get an FM transmitter and a laptop. Hang out at the park in my car. Flip back and forth comparing and adjusting my mix to radio songs on my car stereo.
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Find a pro track that is about how you would like yours to sound. Use it as a reference track. Place parts of it in a Renoise project so you can see the shape in the analyzer. Pay attention to the shape of the low end. Maybe you can’t hear it on your gear, but you can see it on the graph. Cut the low end properly and cut the high end properly on your track using the analyzer as a guide.
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When mixing, check your mix by turning it down so you can barely hear your song. Are certain parts louder than they need to be?
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When using speakers, walk out of the room and listen to the mix. Are certain parts louder than they need to be?
Sorry to go off topic there. Good luck with your mixes!
Umm… FM transmission is prohibited unless you are in the amateur frequency band which can’t be received by regular car radios?
I’ve got this one ::http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-TuneCast-Mobile-FM-Transmitter/dp/B00008SB1D/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1456088899&sr=8-6&keywords=fm+transmitter+belkin
Ummm… it’s broadcasting at 88.7 Mhz… That would make it a pirate radio station…
+1 for pirate radio!
Lol, I don’t know about the Netherlands, but here in the U.S. those things are commonly sold at stores. In addition, most of them have a frequency select so you can usually choose several frequencies from around 88-92.
I’m pretty sure it’s legal here because they are so low power, the broadcast radius is very small. Like, big enough for your car, and that’s about it. I’ve often wondered if I would hear other peoples’ transmitters as they passed me on the highway if I tuned to the right frequency, but I’ve never had the patience to actually listen long enough to try it.
P.S… If it worked, it might be tempting to follow them too closely so I could listen to the jams… Haha
^^ Sounds similar to a toy microphone I once had, that could hack into radio stations if it was close enough (very small range). Pulling up to a car at traffic lights and speaking into the mic produced some amusing results.
the best is soft senheiser … Sony has good sound but have tough amboushoures – ears gone dead after some time
The SonyMDR7506 are supposed to be good. They are cheap too for US$80 and get rave reviews from a lot of industry folk.
I want to get a better pair sometime this year. On my shortlist are:
Sony MDR7506 - $80
AKG K240 Mk II $107 / K240S $100 / K240 $57
Sennheiser HD280 Pro $95
Audio Technica M50x $117
Those are current Amazon US prices.
I would like a pair that is open/semi-open so the K240 are very tempting. That $57 pair seems like a bargain. Sadly Amazon doesn’t ship them to my country.
The 280s are supposed to be skull-crushingly tight to wear so… maybe not great for the extended use I plan on.
M50x are supposed to be solid. The M40x are only $70.
I’ll probably get either the Sony or AKG if i can find a new pair going cheap.
The SonyMDR7506 are supposed to be good. They are cheap too for US$80 and get rave reviews from a lot of industry folk.
I want to get a better pair sometime this year. On my shortlist are:
Sony MDR7506 - $80
AKG K240 Mk II $107 / K240S $100 / K240 $57
Sennheiser HD280 Pro $95
Audio Technica M50x $117
Those are current Amazon US prices.
I would like a pair that is open/semi-open so the K240 are very tempting. That $57 pair seems like a bargain. Sadly Amazon doesn’t ship them to my country.
The 280s are supposed to be skull-crushingly tight to wear so… maybe not great for the extended use I plan on.
M50x are supposed to be solid. The M40x are only $70.
I’ll probably get either the Sony or AKG if i can find a new pair going cheap.
You should seriously try the Philips SHP9500’s. I’ve had them for several months now and they sound really great. Very excellent value.
They do look pretty sweet. How are they for mixing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aipXii-qWiQ
They do look pretty sweet. How are they for mixing?
Well, I did this mix with them:
But, that’s a different kind of mix than you’re talking 
I actually haven’t written any music in a while so I haven’t had a chance to try using them for mixing. But for listening they are SWEET.
I have been working with Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro for years now and am really happy with them. They are a bit out of your price range but i would recommend those as first choice. I can wear those for super long periods of time without any strain on the head, super comfy and they sound really good. Recently i did order some replacement parts for my BD770 and found the Superlux HD330 for 29 eur in the shop. They look pretty much like a clone of the BD770 and you can even use the BD770 replacement parts on them. I would say stock the HD330 sound damn fine rivaling even over 100€ cans, the bass is a bit on the heavy side compared the the BD770 and the highs are less pronounced, but otherwise i’m impressed what that small amount of money can buy you. I do find them less comfortable with big ears, but since i had spare cushions from my BD770 i did put those on and they are quite comfy now, even the sound improved a little. Great pair of second headphones for the money, so even when buying new you land at 50€ or so for the HD330 headphones plus some new BD770 cushions, which is like a 3rd from the BD770 price. Great pick if you’re on a budget imo.
DoesSHP9500 have another name in Europe or something, can’t seem to find a retailer in Norway?
Edit: i just read that they’re discontinued, maybe i should import them before they’re impossible to get hold of…are they worth 150$?
You should seriously try the Philips SHP9500’s. I’ve had them for several months now and they sound really great. Very excellent value.
Thanks for this awesome recommendation organic io. I never thought they would be this much great, considering the low price. I have them for about a week now and I’m totally in love 