Bitwig Speculation Thread

I asked them for a beta. And Demo. For writing in my blog.

Actually, this would make a lot of sense since online collaboration seems to have been planned for Bitwig Studio from the very beginning.

I have to admit I’m intrigued, and I’ll be trying the demo when it comes out tomorrow, but sweet baby jesus I don’t think I can ever go back to using a piano roll again.

It showed up in Thomann’s catalog now (listed at €289 for the boxed version, which is cheaper than the download version), and what concerns me a bit is that it is called “Bitwig Studio Standard”. That implies there will be a “Suite” or “Pro” version later on. Same stuff I dislike about other products.

today i’ve looked at the bitwig website, looking at the features for an orchestra library or a general midi based “rompler”
i’m addicted to those like offered by yamaha/roland/korg/ketron, because you mostly get just one gui and one set of instrument parameters
i hope bitwig is not following the “plug-in per category” concept… bass guitar plug-in, piano plug-in, etc

anyway, i’m sure for €299 i would never get something like this :I maybe with a pro version

(crazy, that it’s using java, i thought someone would not increase the number of programming languages used, for getting the gui platform independant, but it’s kinda reasonable)

I thought today was the 26th, but I must have been going insane.

For the interested: I got another reply from Bitwig support. The vm is included into the bitwig bundle, so a third party Java VM like Oracle JRE or whatever is not needed. Also the audio engine has a higher priority than the GUI. Means: if the load is high, the GUI will be slowed down first.

Ah, I bit the bullet and bought it. May not arrive before Thursday morning, though (the boxed version was cheaper than the download version). This guy got it two days early, which makes his video the first one that isn’t marketing-flavored: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpO-YkJ9yMo

i’ll definitely be checking out the demo tomorrow. hope their servers are ready because I have a feeling that a lot of people will be doing the same.

okies, the modeless piano roll rocks
the value tool tips don’t
back to renoise

just tried to visit their page. seems like they cannot handle all the download requests - page is down :(

you need to f5 through their site, the download itself is very fast

dunno if that helps, thats the link for the windows version http://static.bitwig.com/downloads/Bitwig%20Studio%201.0.1.msi

Tried. Was not impressed.
Being a clinical tracker nerd, never had much use for Ableton or such. <_<

Does it have any kind of step sequencing for like, drums, or is it purely nothing but the piano roll?

I am playing with it right now:

  1. It has great sound quality and works on linux!
    Great modulation posibilities: Renoise should learn here trick or two (assigning parameters via gui not via weird text boxes)
    (+wet/dry and shift option in every effects, effects are great here)

I thought it will be renoise killer for now but i am not so sure now. As i said i love how fast i can connect things but on the other hand it can be done with renoise also. It is very more user friendly in some aspects but besides internal modulation it is not so revolutionary. I prefer it to slow and big ableton 9 + max though.
It almost inspires me what i am going to do in renoise with signal follower etc :slight_smile:

it doesn’t feel finished to me.

firstly it takes about 1 minute for the thing to boot up. i’m used to software opening in 2 seconds. feels so slow.
it didn’t detect my controllers, even though they are supported? i had to manually add them. the GUI starts flickering when i resize the window, makes it feel cheap. i couldn’t find a way to group tracks together.

i’m a bit disappointed, i was looking forward to this. there are a lot of really cool features though, but the overall software feels unfinished and clunky. I’ll come back at 1.1

as I was typing this, an update became available for 1.0.2… gunna try that out now.

I’m not experiencing those. I can resize smoothly without any flickering, and the program pops up quickly, just like Renoise. (This is with Windows 7 and the latest Java version with just built in HD4000 graphics – updating Java probably can’t hurt, if you have an older version.)

Can’t seem to group tracks either, though. Could it be that this is really not supported? I also wish I could change knobs/values with the mouse wheel. But overall I really like the thing, though, it has a Renoise feel without the tracker part, if that makes sense. :) Really liking the project tabs, too.

Project tabs are probably the single most exciting feature to me. After a lot of experimentation I’m shifting from synthesizers and whatnot and shifting more towards pure guitar, so I’m not really needing an advanced modulation system. I would like, however, something with audio tracks that also has a decent way to program drums. I would rather continue recording guitar into renoise’s sampler than deal with programming drums in a piano roll, and it would take a lot for a non tracker step sequencer to do it for me.

There is also something like drum editor, you can turn in by one of these small icons next to the piano roll…

First impressions:

I’m really impressed by the GUI. IMO it’s easy, clean, fast and functional. Like it a lot better than Ableton GUI, also would prefer if Renoise 3 would have a similar cleaned up GUI - and not so complicated as it is right now in 3.0beta. And the multi-monitor support is awesome. The onboard DSP’s and instruments are great, though some seem to be pretty basic (e.g. gate).
It’s maybe too early to say, but my impression is, that this first release focuses a lot on the core system, which seems to be pretty solid and complete. I like this approach, since it’s always a good thing to build up on a solid foundation. IMO it’s a DAW with most of the important features. The more fancy stuff will follow, for sure. TBH I hope it won’t be too much. E.g. Renoise 3 is too much on the fancy side right now.

Only thing to complain about: definitely too expensive.