Building Me An Athlon X2 System

Hey guys… I’m making a shopping list for a new pc and I came up with the following:

CPU: ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ 2.0GHZ BOX S939 2X512KB 2000FSB MANCHASTER

MB: ASUS MB A8N5X/S939 NFORCE4

MEM: KINGSTON MEMORY/512MB KIT 400MHZ DDR PC3200 DIMM

HD: WESTERN DIGITAL K/HDRAPT/36.7GBSATA150 10000 8MB20PKBULK

VID: CLUB 3D RADEON 7000 64MB DDR AGP DVI/TV-OUT

SOUND: Maybe an USB MOTU 828 mkII

CASE: Antec Sonata II (Already there)

The thing is with the videocard. I have a 20 inch DVI-D LCD widescreen here, do I still need a beefy video card to maintain performance (I do not play games) or can I stick with a simple DVI card?

Any tips or stuff to keep in mind? Thanks!

i have about the same configuration (not exactly but more or less) and i am quite happy

about the video card… i think that you dont need beefy gpu, you just have to make sure it supports the resolution you need

Alright, thanks man… I’ll double check that. Can’t wait to get it up and running. I’ve been tracking with a pentium III 900 for the last 3 years :( so this will be rockin’ :yeah:

personally I’d get more than 512 megs of RAM if I were you…1 gig seems to suffice for most applications but I do know people that swear by having twice that…

If you can afford the extra $$ upfront, more RAM will never hurt, and more often than not, help.

already made sure renoise gets along well with dual core machines?

Works just fine on my new setup which I bought myself for Christmas, based around:

MSI K8N Diamond Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+
2 Gigabytes Corsair TWINX 3200C2 DDR
GeForce 7800GTX 256MB

The only odd thing I’ve noticed is that the CPU meter in Renoise sometimes appears to be wrong, as if it’s monitoring the wrong CPU core or something. For example, sometimes Renoise will show a constant 99% CPU usage when nothing is actually playing (or even loaded). Other times the meter behaves normally as you’d expect.

Very, very happy with the system so far :D

dual core problems arise only with P4’s HyperThreading.

by the way, I’ve sold my P4 3Ghz and motherboard to a friend of mine, so I’m going to siwtch to an AMD Atholn 64 X2 4200+ very soon.

preparing for take off :ph34r:

because he gives me money, of course! :lol:

well, actually I’m selling it for a bunch of euros:
after a long deal, we eastablished that he will give me 86.71€ and a kiss on a cheek (really :)), which is bargain, after all, and he doesn’t use ReNoise, so he is fine with HyperThreading.

Already thought about that… RAM you can’t have enough indeed, so I’m going for a dual channel 512 mb pair. I’m glad to hear that I made the right choice to go with AMD (also read the story IT-Alien had with his Intel machine that made me go this way). Thanks for the feedback guys! This is going to be a nice setup.

One thing… I was thinking about to get an Asus motherboard with FireWire built in for the MOTU soundcard. How stable is FireWire under windows? I know it rocks on an Apple but never used it on a Windows machine…

Another point is the CPU cache… The one I have on the list has 512 … should I consider going 1 mb? And how much benefit do I get performance wise?

BTW. 2way opterons (dual core that can also be in a dual cpu setup) went down 53% a couple of days ago. So it is now possible to get a quad cpu setup without going bankrupt.
This is on socket 940 though and you will need registered RAM for this setup.
Just something to think about anyway :)

So when will renoise get a multithreaded audioengine? :rolleyes:

I’m trying to stay under 900 euro’s with the PC setup so a Quad Opteron will probably tip me over :D Rest of the money will go to a decent soundcard like the Motu experimental stuff with outboard gear and routing.

Ok, after reading a lot of reviews this is finally the setup that I’m getting. I have not build it yet but I’ll let you know how it went and what the performance is.

Case: Antec Sonata Lifestyle II Black, 450 W, 1 X 120mm
Motherboard: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Dual Core 2.0 GHz, 2000 MHz, Boxed
Memory: TwinMos Dual Channel 1024 MB, PC3200, 400 MHz, 2,5, Kit Of 2
Harddisk: Western Digital Raptor 74 GB, 10.000 Rpm, 8 MB, Serial ATA/150
Graphicscard: XFX VGA GeForce 6600 Silent 256 MB

Extra’s:
Arctic Freezer 64 Pro Aluminium (replace the stock cpu cooler for less noise)
Zalman ZM-F2 92mm Fan (extra fan in air-duct that cools the cpu)
Zalman ZM-NB47J Passive Northbridge Cooler Aluminium Blue (replace fan with passive fan on motherboard)

Total cost for the setup is 950,00 (euro)

I’ve set up my new Athlon 64 X2 4200+ with 3GB of RAM, and I have say that it performs about 200% better than the previous P4 3Ghz and 2GB with ReNoise:

I’ve tried it with my latest song, and the CPU gets about 50% less charged with half latency.

Too bad that Norton Ghost has destroyed all of my primary HD data, so I have to reinstall everything from scratch again…

&%$"£&%$!!!

That’s a great performance boost can’t wait to get the system up! To bad to hear of your corrupted backup though :( always a drag to reinstall everything from scratch… no songs lost I hope?

After only 5 months of operation my Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 (not pro) died on me :angry: Actually not really died but started to generate vibration as hell and of course the noise that comes along with it. It seemd to me that it somehow went off the balance or something. I dont know, maybe i just got the faulty one. But anyway, i dont have the time to start messing with the warranty bullshit process, cause i cant use my comp without a cooler. So i bouth myself Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu today…

EDIT:

by the way i bought the same passive chipset cooler also today while i was at it. Seems pretty OK. Although i had to breake apart whole computer to get to other side of the mobo for removing the stock cooler. I hate those push-pin connectors :angry:

Anyway, everything is up and running now and as we say here “if ending is good, then all good” :)

To bad to hear the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 started to behave badly. I haven’t heard anyone else having the same problems. The PRO version seems to be on par with Zalman but doesn’t attract that much dust and is about the same noise level and ofcourse cheaper.

Thanks for sharing your story with passive fan on the motherboard. It would be a typical thing for me to build the pc with the motherboard in it and then get everything out because I forgot to do that first :lol:

yeah i havent heard also anybody having problems with arctic cooling freezer… i guess it was just my bad luck :(

hehe :) and dont forget the CPU cooler backplate too ;)

And if you remove your stock chipset fan and it connects to the mobo with those crazy push-pins then you have to cut them off on the other side… At least i couldnt figure out another way to remove them… Why cant they use screws for that? :unsure: EDIT: and be careful not to damage the mobo while doing it…

Thanks, I’ll try to be carefull with it… probably will go and try to get those out like a dentist :ph34r: in training… “o god o god o god… yeeeessss…” :D

yeah, lets hope its not “o god o god o god… nooooooo…” :)

by the way here is good tutorial on how to replace cipset cooler…

(although i couldnt remove the pushpins as they describe… i had to cut them off)