Cheap Hydra Tricks

Tips & Tricks
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Thanks to whoever edited my earlier post… I was not aware of the codebox tag, which is much more space-efficient than the normal code tag. Good stuff!

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lol… I’ll take that as a hint

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Noob question here.
I’ve been trying to get the xml code from renoise DSP chains to open in notepad so I can paste it up or use the ones people have posted here and have them open in renoise.
Whats the trick here?
I’m not a programmer, but it should be pretty simple right?

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Right click the chain → Copy DSP Chain … paste in notepad ;)

To put the chain back in Renoise, copy the XML from the forums, right click the empty dsp chain panel in Renoise, click “Paste DSP chain”

25

Hydra+Reverb to put sound closer or farther

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You could do a comb filter by just lining up multiple band-stop filters (instead of adding together several band pass filters).

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Yah I was thinking about that one… might be hard to get the settings just right however

28

Bah! We need a curve library.

And higher granularity for effects parameters.

I want to create a song which plays itself using nothing but butterfly effects.

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thanx for sharing these tips

hydra is a monster.

these chains posted here should be included in the next release

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Oh. It’s that easy!? and here I was bothering to save device chains. Silly me!
Ok heres the thing I typed out above. Range is set C2-C4. Playing different notes will set the parameters so that each new note will start in a different position in the stereo field and slide acroos the midpoint to the other side while reverb is applied, surround width increased and some other stuff with filters I think. A note starts on one side and slides to the other side and into the background a bit… kind of.

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Not really a comb filter but it maxed my cpu beleive it or not.
17 filters is enough for any man. This is probably an incorrect implementation of what martyfmelb suggested: Lining up multiple notch filters=>comb filter.

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A tip for pasting the presets here:
use the codebox tag instead of code, this will show the code with a scroller and do do not fill up the entire screen/page…

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yeah I was looking for that tag but I can only see the # code tag.

Oh wait, This works

Sorry about that!

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Haha… busted by the taktik police :P

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Busted indeed!
I was gonna take that post down, but I decided I would do Taktik more justice by actually thinkin and applying logic.
Tried your “reverse hydra” Pretty nifty, and not huge.

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Well, if the VST-automation device is set up to control instrument(s) used in other track(s), it is quite possible :slight_smile:

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Modular routing ! :drummer:

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:drummer:
Get those hydra tricks on here!

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I definately agree!!

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Youmean an envelop follower , that takes audio input to control whatever parameters ?