Seriously though, you can achieve a decent wobble bass with a simple square wave, a bandpass filter with a strong negative envelope, Lfo’d to the 1/4 (automate changes in sync rate). Stereo spread can help with the fatness, unison, multiple instances etc.
EDIT: Lfo is for the cutoff frequency sorry…
It should go FHWhomP! (negative env) Whuaaa…(sustain) Whub whub whub whub whub… (always include sound bytes of desired effects)
Unfortunately I haven’t gotten far enough into renoise to do this with native tools yet (dunno where the option for inverted filter envelope is) but it’s definitely do-able out of the box. (I mean download)
@ coopr: could you post the xrns of your example [‘really simple stuff (with some not so nice drums)’]? what your doing there is exactly what i want to achieve and without usung vsts too…nice!! pleeeaaaase!!!
some one mentioned earlier, using bandpass filters instead of LPFs for wobble, this actually sounds better!
but my extra tip would be, to highpass filter that wobble on the end of the effects-chain, and add a sub sinewave along side it - obviously using the same notes. it’s a little time consuming but well worth it! then maybe send both the sub + wobble(s) to a bus channel and compress it.
Depends totally and utterly on the bass’ high end. If it reaches beyond 2KHz, it could work better, depending on what sound you’re after. But I’d not compress sub and wobble together, let them both speak for themselves. To quickly layer something with sub:
Duplicate track, inl. patterns
Advanced pattern editor: track in song, replace wobble-instrument with sub-instrument
Working with the ringmod frequencies is not a real choice atm, because the calculated key frequencies are not accurate. Combine it with an accurate tuned VST on your toenails will curl up…
You could always use the keytrack device and empty instrument to set maxima and minima freq values! It’s accurate if you clamp to A
It’s a lot of effort I know, but that’s what effects chains are for.
I work on linux so I’ve been putting alot into just using native FX.
No problem. Hope the XRNS is self explanitory. Essentially you only need to listen to the “step” track, but i thought i’d add the others anyway to get more of a feel for the sound…
First pattern has negative feedback on the flanger, second has positive feedback on the flanger, third has no chorus.
The other effects are just playing around with a few parameters to get typical dubstep sounds.
the key to making these angry reese-styled things is to have two sound sources: one sine wave, and another heavily chorused sine wave one octave up. then you distort those!
chip sine, and a long chain of alternating distortion, EQ10 renoise native plug ins. thats it really. I’ve got dubstep releases on vinyl, and I only use renoise. instead of chip sine, you could truncate and loop a sub-heavy kick if you want, for a more agressive sound. sculpt the final output with filters. render selection to sample is your friend.
EDIT:
check the top track in my soundcloud, called “Three Five Three” - that bass was made with this method. all about thinking outside the box. no one wants that old wobble bass anymore. Let skream do his thing, and you do yours.
I’ve found that using band-pass filters over an oscillator with Fold distortion, set to equal parts dry and wet, gives you a really Massive-esque FM wobble effect, especially if you combine it with custom waveforms in the LFO device.
Combine it with this tip from agargara, and you’ve essentially got a multi-oscillator native filthy wobble synth.
“Route a key-tracking device to the RingMod frequency, with min 27.5Hz and max 4186Hz, with range A-0 to C-8 and flat scaling. Then the frequency will match the pitch of your sample, giving you some fun effects playing around with your choice of sample and the RingMod settings. Turning Inertia down can give a ringmoddy pitch-bend effect.”
What I like doing is putting 2 of these ringmod-oscillators on the same track, one set at a slightly higher frequency than the base note, and one slightly lower - to get that 3-osc detuned effect you hear in a lot of Massive patches. Layer on chorus, flanger, make an exciter, and you can make it sound pretty sexy.
. Thanks for the heads up!
