Yes, that IS the biggest FAIL when switching from PC to Mac. On the other hand, it ‘forced’ me (strictly speaking I forced myself) to learn some decent audiodesign. I can proudly say I can do some things with a square or saw, where others need Albino or Massive and I wouldn’t have learned if I still had Albino at my disposal. Hurrah? Well, depends on your priorities, I guess.
What makes you think I flipped? I just mentioned I’ve had just as few problems with my PC is as many years as you have with your Mac, and my desktop is and always has been on 24/7.
I recommend Mac to people occasionally, when I really do think it will suit their purpose (or they are already acclimatised to Logic) but generally wont unless they are a student, and thus get a good discount, have money to spare or are getting it through some kind of bursary.
In fact I listed a few of my bigger issues with Apple on a different forum in a similar discussion. There business ethic is worse than M$ these days!
There is a reason why most the software that was once Mac only (Pro Tools and Avid for prime examples) now runs on both and is generally actually recommended to be run on a PC unless you are already a Mac user and more familiar with it.
And no I don’t do any gaming or anything whatsoever that usually people use as the main argument (other than cost) for going for a PC over mac.
Nah, you didn’t ‘flip’, sorry for that one. Just that I found your arguments in defence had no relevance to my arguments of why I use a Mac and thus shoved you in the ‘defensive corner’ for my own convenience. Sorry dude, no harm meant 
Fair enough. We have four people in this house who use their machines almost exclusively for music. Two of them have PCs, two of them have Macs. For the almost a year I’ve been here there has been a lot more headaches and times spent trying to solve issues with the Macs than the PCs. I just don’t think the old argument that Macs are better/more stable/reliable holds up any more. Don’t think it really has since they went from the 68k processors to the PPC, and now they are also on Intel they do do a little more research than your average PC vendor, but not more than if you are able to build one yourself or actually put a bit of time into researching what works well out of the slightly (only few months really) hardware and is tried and tested. Sure at the very top end spec’s, especially with their exclusivity contracts, you can probably get something pretty stable reliably than with a PC but at what cost?
But if it’s what you’re used to/you want to use logic/you care more about aesthetics than anything else/weight&size to power ratio are important AND you can afford it then why not.
I’ve used PCs since day 1, switched to Mac about a year and a half ago and was very happy about the switch, despite losing all VST’s. In my experience, Mac is a whole lot more stable. But then again, I don’t have any cracked stuff on there, neither did I have on my (last) PC and I can imagine that does make a difference, no matter what OS you’re on. But then AGAIN (yes again), I know too little about computers to know if it does.
Not a single Warez on my PC. Had a few on my secondary partition of my desktop when I was still trying to work out what I wanted to use. Found Renoise, liked it, bought it. Realised there was so much good freeware around I didn’t really need to be using warezed anything. I know some of the bits on my mates Macs are cracked and that could cause some of the stability issues. But as Jenoki mentioned he’s had stability issues with university machines and I would be worried if they were running warez or allowing students to install crap or mess with the system.
As I said there are situations where I will recommend people do go with a Mac if they are split but it’s probably less than one in ten times. I’m not a PC purist but I do feel that Macs being more stable/reliable than PCs is a myth these days. Sure there is less viruses aimed at them, but that is probably about it.
Probably because they run on a Windows server. 
Sounds like the early comments about Windows Vista!!!
Haha, aight okay. So. Who prefers PS over XBOX? 
Don’t play games much so personally don’t give a s&*t. Hated the initial XBox controller then lived with a guy who had a 360 for a couple of years and got quite used to it. Was almost tempted to buy a Xbox360 for the living room a while ago for drunken evenings but never did in the end, know my housemates would of got so much more use of of it than me. PS3 is undoubtedly but at the time (about a year ago) nobody was utilising it properly and there was no real point in spending the extra money for one over the 360, I came to prefer to 360’s controller over time and their online server is a LOT more stable than Sony’s.
I know you weren’t really expecting a response but heck, I felt like it. Probably a bit of a less barbed subject on an audio forum than Mac/PC.
I’m using Windows Vista Basic and I really like it. I find it to be the fastest, easiest to use and most stable system I’ve ever used. The systems I’ve used are Windows 3, 95, 98, ME, Vista, Various Unix flavours, Linux Ubuntu 8, AmigaOS 1.3 to 3.9, 68k Mac (system 7 or something)…
The only XP computer I’ve tried was totally messed up btw… Slow as syrup…
Haha, yeah true on both
I have a PS3 for gaming, but I only use it when I have some friends over for the gaming-occasion. Never played on an XBOX, I bought the PS3 because, in the end, I just have too much money. Hence the Mac
In order of preference:
- Wii
- 360
- PS3
My brother has a Wii, I love playing Mario with 4 wackos at the same time! With a CONTROLLER
For those drunken evenings of entertainment I don’t think I can disagree with that in any way.
aarrggh dammn they are made by the same uber fan/girl boy
all right !?
I definitely have no issues with the Mac itself either–I think MacOS IS much more solid than Windows.
I just hate it when I see people asking for help with specific Windows issues get responses from Mac people to “buy a Mac”–they’re really saying “your computer sucks, stop being so cheap and buy a Mac”, just as it’s equally as rude and elitist for someone to say “buy a Mercedes” when someone is asking for help with a problem they’re having with their car. Of course the new Mercedes is going to be a good car–but usually people who are asking for help with their current car don’t have the money to dish out for something as expensive as a Mercedes–the person who gives the reply “buy a (insert expensive product here)” comes off as snooty and elitist.
Thankfully I haven’t actually seen this kind of thing on this forum, but I HAVE seen it a lot on other forums and in person.
I use the big 3 OS. Love Linux, Windows is OK, and Mac OSX is like linux but extremely polished. I dont have a mac, but a Hackintosh, and runs very good.
I will try Windows 7, but I really like Leopard (do I need Snow Leopard??)
The Wii sucks man.
Unless your a family of girlies and boysies, teenagers, adults, and kids. Then it’s better than boardgames.
if your PC hardware supports it, try to hibernate the PC instead of shutting it down; this will solve the problem of slow startup, consume no power when hibernated and save your money which can be used to renew your Renoise license 