I recently bought a m-audio Audiophile 24-96 card, after reading so many good reviews of it, also here on the Renoise forum. And I must say it really kicks ass ! The only problems are:
It doesn’t seem possible for this board to record itself while it’s playing… I tried goofing around with the router but without any success… Does someone think that would still be possible ? (for now for recording renoise+my expander+gigastudio I have to resample all this through my Sblive, which makes pretty useless the fact that I bought an Audiophile )
I have some clicks and pops with Audiophile that I didn’t have with Sblive+ directx. I tryed tweaking the buffer size, in Renoise as well as in the setup pannel of the Audiophile, no result for this. The only thing is that in Renoise when using the Audiophile my VSTi works fine only with the buffer size set to 64.
It seems that the problem might that I’m using a Ahtlon cpu, which motherboards are said to sometimes create problems with low-latency audio cards…
Finally my question would be => As I need to buy a big audio card for my pc at work (intel based), can anyone give advice for card at least as good as the Audiophile BUT with full-duplex support ? Since it’s for the company the price should not be a problem . I was thinking maybe of a bigger Delta card, or a Motu or Hoontech… Looking forward for some good advices on this mater.
This is fully possible. You can do it by routing the output signal to the monitor mixer and then set the recording device to record from the monitor mixer. Not harder than that
A more precise explanation:
Goto control-panel → sounds & audio devices
Click the Audio-tab
Beneath the Sound Recording area, chose “M Audio Delta AP Mon. Mixer” in the “Default Device”-dropdown menu
Press apply
Open M-Audio Delta Control Panel
Goto the “Patchbay/Router”-tab
Set H/W Out to be routed to the monitor mixer
Goto the “Monitor Mixer”-tab
Unmute the master and the WaveOut Input and turn up the volume sliders on both.
Voila, now you can record the output signal in optional recording-program…
Are you changing the buffer size in the M-Audio Delta Control Panel or inside Renoise? You shall definitly do it from the M-Audio panel. A buffer Size of 64 is very small and will probably not work very well if you do not have a very fast computer.
What kind of motherboard do you have? And how fast is your processor? The problems with low-latency audio cards is only appearing on motherboards with the VIA KT133 chipset and has nothing to do with the Athlon processor itself. If you do not have that type of chipset on your motherboard, the pops and clicks probably is caused by anyhing else and can very likely be solved without buying a new mobo or processor (if it is ofcourse not caused by an overheated CPU )
and btw, the M-Audio/Midiman support is very helpfull so if you have any further problems in the future then do not hesitate to contact them I had some questions about my MIDI-interface once, so I wrote a mail to them and the next morning I had a very pleasant answer
and a few more things I forgot to say
You do not have to route the input-signal to the Monitor Mixer if you do not want to, but it is easier if you realy want to hear what you are going to record, the only thing you realy need to do is to set the recording device to record from the monitor mixer and turn up the volume for the mixer and the waveout, most audio programs support that you set the recording-source directly inside the program (instead of setting it in the audio properties in windows control panel), it use to be easier that way…
I have my H/W out set to route to the monitor mixer all the time, by having it that way I can choose if I shall record from an external source (by chosing “M Audio Delta AP 1/2” as the recording source) or an internal source (by chosing “M Audio Delta AP Mon Mixer” as the recording source) and I am also able to mix the external input-signal with the internal sound in my computer and in that way get an better result than if I listen to the input-signal before it is mixed thru my computer. By using the monitor mixer I also prevent feedback that I can get when I mix the computer-sound thru my analog mixer and then back to the computer again…