How Do You Type In An Entry?

I have this loop and I reckon if I could just type in C-4 in to the pattern editor I might feel I was getting places - I can’t see it in the manual. Don’t say I have to hit the record button first and start from there.

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This wiki should help you:

http://tutorials.renoise.com/?n=Renoise.UsingSamples

Also if you can`t load the loop, look at the bottom bar in renoise when selecting it from its directory. Renoise gives an error message if the file type you are trying to load is unsupported.

EDIT: If you have already loaded the sample and just want to know how to add it to the pattern:

  1. Press Escape (a red border should appear around the pattern showing that you are in edit mode)
  2. Use keys on the qwerty keyboard to enter note. They will appear where the pattern cursor is. Navigate with the arrow keys or double left-clicks of the mouse.
  3. Change the octave you are using with the / and * buttons on the number pad.

Thanks for that. If only the manual was as instructive.

This is from the manual:

The details

You probably will not enter all notes, instrument numbers, volumes, pannings, and effects by hand. The days of such work are pretty much over.

You record them when record-mode and play-mode are both enabled. Depending on configuration settings, volumes, delay values, and related instrument numbers are automatically placed in their proper places with the measured values.
Volumes are related to the velocity recording setting within the MIDI-configuration settings. A delay is recorded if the “Record Note Delays” button is triggered. (lshift-`) For every later-timed note you hit on your keyboard during recording, a delay will be set to the current delay-position of that row. You can also record the DSP slider settings to either automation curves or to effect commands, but this will be covered in another page. There are some tricks around the corner to change this effect value recording status to any of the three available: recording to automation envelope, effect command, or combined.

Once you are done with recording, you start shaping up your pattern by patching notes that fell out of the rhythm timeline, volumes that were recorded a little lower than desired and certain recorded slide effects that do not slide as you wanted them to. This is when you do that by hand, but if you perform well on your live input, you’ll have to do less patching. Within the patching, however, lies the art of making your song.

To the beginner it gives the impression it’s no longer about punching the information in but more about recording the information first and editing it later.
I think what’s needed is a tutorial along the lines of the one written for ModPlug tracker where one is led through the process of creating a song. It might help prevent people from becoming discouraged at an early stage. I do believe that people underestimate the need for a well written tutorial. I’ve downloaded just about every tracker prog available and hts Renoise tmm is the most attactive - but if I need to go online everytime I need a simple question answered I’m sorry but I’ll have to go and find something else to work with. Am I beginning to rant. I haven’t had my caffeine yet.

It is a shame if this puts you off using renoise as I can certainly agree with you that it is the most attractive of the trackers out there. I myself came to use renoise from using another tracker for years so the transition was not too difficult for me and I didn`t really need to use the manual that much. On the other hand if you are new to tracking I can see how what you have just copied + pasted here may not be immediately clear.

Do you have a link that you could post to the MODplug tutorial so that an idea could be given of what you have found more helpful?

I think that lots of steps forward have been made since the beginning of ReNoise in the direction of helping tracking newbies; just look at the ReNoise Wiki, the new manual (which is way better than the 1.2x one, don’t you think?), and just how big this cmmunity has become.

There is still a lot to do, ok, and that’s why the ReNoise team is always welcoming new ideas and would surely accept enthusiastically such kind of “for-dummies” contribuitions.

Personally I think that ReNoise is already the most online documented tracker (i.e.: the one for which you can find the most online help aobut).

You can also download the tutorials.renoise.com content here

I agree that the new wiki is an excellent resource as I`ve said in other posts. Could see in this instance however that the quote given could be confusing to a newbie.

To put my money where my mouth is, I`ll see what I can come up with ;) .

I cannot promise lots of fancy jpegs etc. But if a simple step by step text guide for someone opening renoise for the first time aiming to get a simple song going would be useful, I can do that.

I can email you the document It, when its done

waiting… :rolleyes:

The link to the tutorial for ModPlug wasn’t working so I’ve uploaded to here:

Tutorial.doc

or this for PDF version

Tutorial.pdf

Something along these lines would be very helpful for those of us who are just starting out.

My email: iudoe@lycos.com
Look forward to hearing from you and thankyou in advance

Thanks for these links sean they will be useful for me to see.

All good things come to those who do :P :rolleyes:

I’m sorry to notice you overlooked the proper topic for this:

http://tutorials.renoise.com/?n=Renoise.Re…ordingInRenoise

  
Official speaking, Renoise does not really have a “record-mode”. Renoise has an “Edit-mode” where you can manually insert your notes. Though when you leave “Edit-mode” toggled and you hit the “Play” button, you have the capability of recording your notes into Renoise.  
  
  

I shall adjust the link-topic to make it more clear that editing is also part of the deal.

Also as IT-Alien specified, you can download an offline edition as well, those are linked on the top of the side menu below the searchbox. The searchbox is also a very intuitive tool that can give you some answers if you can’t find it exactly.

Just downloaded this and Im not able to open it withadobe reader 7`. I can extract the text with a text editor but then miss the screenshots. Can anybody else view this as a pdf?
If it turns out the file is corrupt could you post it again please Sean.

Cheers

Because it’s not a PDF but the same DOCfile.

There are many things in Renoise that can be done to create a step by step tutorial.
Just doing a couple of songs for starters is something i aimed to do with a Flash animation or just with something different.

But input is welcome if you feel you can whip it up, post it on the wiki (in the user-contribution area) and if it’s good, i’ll add it to the main menu and this has open to everyone for as long as the wiki has been online!
Only up to now… i haven’t see many people actually doing something with it.

I`ll take a look at this and see what I can contribute.

Thanks for the enlightenment here. (makes note to self to check this in future!)

Sean if you could post the PDF here that would still be good.

This’ll work :blink:

Tutorial.doc

or this for PDF version

Tutorial.pdf

Something along these lines would be very helpful for those of us who are just starting out.

Cheers, looking at this now.

Oh right I forgot to mention that I did infact download that just after downloading the program and although it has been helpful it would have been nice if it had included a step by step tutorial for those of us who require such a thing.
To my mind you can’t beat a tut which starts off with ‘and here you can download the completed song’ or ‘in order to complete this tutorial you will require the following files’ or ‘this tutorial will take you through each step of the process and at the end you will have completed a song’. When I see that sort of thing I find it difficult to resist.

Yes i understand this.
I’ve also had received a suggestion to do a more “click on an area of the Renoise environment image and load the right page” idea.

The wiki site actually is still only a technical reference of Renoise 1.5.
This was the first priority (as there has to be at least full documentation) and the next step was creating a version that suits offline browsing.
I’m just watching the forums and keep an eye on beginners posts and gather whatever i think i need to add or change. This is what i currently do now (and can quickly maintain without spending hours of recording and converting video’s to gif etc.)

Complete step by step tutorials will come pretty soon, i also have lots of other things to deal with the upcoming few weeks before i can truely dedicate myself upon that. Just keep in mind that beginners have not been forgotten in that aspect, just a bit postponed.

But I repeat in general:anyone is welcome to add tutorials here on the forums or on the Wiki contribution area.
And if not, then you’ll need to have a few weeks patience.