How to get the highest master volume??

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Hi everybody------

I finished the 3rd song of my life, the first with renoise, but I noticed that its master volume is very very very very lower than the volume of the songs I download from the renoise site -----------

Which is the secret?? It’s something about compression??

:drummer: thank you :drummer:

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try editing it in another program, like cooledit or something…
just normalize the thing and there you go…
i dont know how to do it in renoise tho.

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In renoise you can try to use a compressor on the mastertrack, set it to -3 db and LIMIT …
this might be a easy, fast and safe way.

some post regarding this is here.

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Thank you guys!!-------------

Your feedbacks have been very useful!!---------------------- :D

:drummer: see you :drummer:

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Wohoo! I was useful!

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Hi, Iooza and all you others B)

I’ve been looking for a way to make the sound louder also, and Iooza, your reply really helped, but still there’s something I don’t get…

Iooza : In renoise you can try to use a compressor on the mastertrack, set it to -3 db and LIMIT …

Do you use the compressor in Renoise or some other vst? I’ve read in some posts here that the compressor in Renoise only distorts the sound…

Also, I’m very new to DSP effects and VSTs, so i’m just wondering, when you said LIMIT, do you mean to do so in a different program like in Cool Edit or can you do this in the compressor somehow? On the renoise compressor it has something called Post Gain. What do you recommend this to be set to? and the mastertrack volume?

Sorry for all the questions :unsure:

Thanks

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With Renoise’s Compressor/Limiter:

Threshold: -3dB
Ratio: LIMIT
Attack: 10ms (highest possible value)
Release: 1ms (lowest possible value)
Post Gain: Set to a comfortable percentage.

To find out what all this means, I googled up a few links:
http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Art…es/Compression/
http://www.imperialdub.com/dubstudio/compression/
http://www.guitarnoise.com/sound/20020510.php

Also, try Bram’s H2O (http://www.smartelectronix.com/~bram/files/H2O_v1.0_Win.zip).

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Thanks alot, hcys :)

Really do appreciate it!!!

Will try that out :D

Thanks again!!!

Rock on :yeah:

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Do you use the compressor in Renoise or some other vst? I’ve read in
some posts here that the compressor in Renoise only distorts the sound…

The old one (< Renoise 1.26) did, the new one is much better …

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Compressing the master track is bad practice - you shouldn’t do it unless you absolutely must, and there are very few rare cases where it’s justifiable - in general, compressing the master channel will remove loud plosives, mutter the mix and make the sound less intelligible. Just try zooming out your recorded song in a WAV editor, and you will instantly be able to see what I mean, although the untrained ear may not be able to hear it, but killing loud plosives (unless you’re de-essing a vocal recording, for example) is generally a bad thing.

Normalize the volume to the point where it doesn’t clip, simply by using the master volume slider. But don’t rape your mix by forcing a loud volume by compressing the master track. If you ever have the luck to get your music played on the radio, you can be sure it’ll sound like shit - and it also won’t be louder, because the radio stations use compression/limiting on their master channel as well, so there’s a good chance your sound will be trashed completely.

Just my word of advice - take it or leave it … :)

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Try swapping the attack and release times there. If you’re wanting to limit the loudest dynamic parts of your mix by using a compressor then you should be using a very fast attack to quickly react to the peaks, and a longer release or you will get a distorted sound. I fully agree with mindplay, though, but when used well a bit of subtle compression on the final mix can do wonders in increasing the overall volume and smoothing everything out or adding punch. I recommend Waves’ Renaissance Compressor.