But it doesnt means, Renoise is dead for me. I Love Renoise, i feel Home by porno … i mean opening it.
The Reason i bought Reason is the Pitch Editor, the grain synth and the big Instrument lyb.
And here is my first Track
i feel Home by porno … i mean opening it.
What do mean exactly ?
You open a porno and then feel home?
probably best not to ask.
reason eq is off the hook
I ReWire Reason into Renoise, sending specific Reason instruments to different outputs so I can use them inside Renoise like any VST plugin instrument. It works fine. I bought Reason 10, Grain kicks serious ass… incredible instrument. Plus I’ve just been using reason instruments for years and years so it’s nostalgic for me to be able to use Subtractor and Maelstrom…hell, I still get a lot of mileage out of ReDrum.
Anyway, point is, the Rewire integration with Renoise is pretty much seamless, just remember to plug your mixer channels into the various outputs so you can get an individual channel for each Reason instrument, rather than just one channel for the whole mix (some dumb videos I’ve seen on youtube actually think this is the only way ReWire works, yikes).
Of course the downside to this is that you don’t really have automation control 
-M
I ReWire Reason into Renoise, sending specific Reason instruments to different outputs so I can use them inside Renoise like any VST plugin instrument.
Is setting all that up a pain? I messed around with the Reaper demo a bit but setting up ReWire seemed complicated.
Of course the downside to this is that you don’t really have automation control
-M
Can’t you automate it in Reason while it’s being rewired to Renoise?
I saw it too… its difficult to Mixing in Reason with the EQs…
but yes, the grain is powerfull. Put a windows error tone into it and have some fun.
At the begin i mean „i feel at Home when i opening Renoise“
Porn is a another Story
Just use reason as a rack .
Sequence and automate from within renoise .
The key is to insert a rewire device for every reason instrument and rack ., so every rewire instance is an au
Bypass reasons mixer , straight to the rewire out ., insert appropirate rewire dsp device in renoise
Insert instrument to control the reason’s instrument .
Save both as template .
At the begin i mean „i feel at Home when i opening Renoise“
Porn is a another Story
Please do tell Mr .Weinstein
Can’t you automate it in Reason while it’s being rewired to Renoise?
yes, you can, but you’ll be automating in an empty lane in Reason’s arranger, because your actual recorded note data will be over in Renoise. Which is just kind of awkward, but workable if you don’t mind jumping between two different sequencers and mentally “lining up” the information.
Is setting all that up a pain? I messed around with the Reaper demo a bit but setting up ReWire seemed complicated.
No, it’s quite easy, somebody else already explained it above, but essentially you need to do the following:
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each instrument in Reason needs to have its Mixer Channel Outputs directly wired to an Audio Output Pair, e.g. 1+2, 3+4, 5+6, etc. These are available up top on the input/output panel of Reason (on the backside). You have to hit the “Audio I/O” button for it to be visible, though.
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each Reason instrument needs a corresponding Track in Renoise. On each track, insert a Rewire Input Device, and then choose the corresponding Audio Pair that matches the Outputs selected in Step 1. (this is how Renoise gets the audio from Reason).
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each Reason instrument needs a MIDI instrument created in Renoise. So for each Reason instrument, select an empty instrument slot in Renoise, go to the MIDI page, and then under MIDI Output, open the drop down selection menu and choose the corresponding Reason instrument – they will all show up there. Unfortunately, it will also list every device it sees in Reason, so you have to hunt for the specific instrument you are looking to send MIDI to (note: do not select the ‘mixer channel’ entry, that won’t work, you must select the instrument itself, which is usually labelled by the currently loaded preset). Once selected, a MIDI instrument device has been created, as shown in the Instrument Box in the top-right of Renoise. Now this can be selected exactly as you’d select and use any Renoise instrument or VST plugin instrument. This part = how Renoise sends MIDI to Reason.
Maybe sounds complicated, but once you’d done it a couple times, it becomes totally ingrained and only takes a few moments to setup.
Also remember that notes will be triggered by BOTH sequencers (Renoise and Reason) if you have your MIDI playback device (your keyboard) active for both. So you might need to do a little playing around with which / what controllers you use between the two programs, or just turn them off for Reason, otherwise you’ll get doubled playback.
-Michael
Of course the downside to this is that you don’t really have automation control
-M
You can automate Reason’s devices inside Renoise. You can do it via “virtual” MIDI with a small trick.
1st
download and install the free Copperlan Software. It’s a very good virtual MIDI interface with virtual MIDI cables.
2nd
start Copperlan and configurate it to your needs. You can create as many virtual MIDI connections as you need.
3rd
go to Reason’s preferences create a new MIDI control surface and set one of the virtual MIDI connections created in Copperlan as MIDI in.
4th
in Renoise route the MIDI outs of your pattern track to the same virtual MIDI connection you configurated in Reason as MIDI in.
5th
now in Renoise load an Instr. MIDI Control device in your configurated MIDI out pattern track and set up some MIDI CC numbers for your Automations.
6th
switch to Reason and use these configurated MIDI CC numbers via the remote control feature for your parameter to be automated. Now you can control these parameters with the Renoise Istr. MIDI Control’s configurated CC faders. Write some automations for the faders, press play and the parameters in Reason will be automated in realtime.
BUT NOTE:
by automating this way, you need to render your song to an audio file with realtime mode. Otherwise the automations will not be rendered. This way the automations work like controlling a hardware synth with Renoise.
You can automate Reason’s devices inside Renoise. You can do it via “virtual” MIDI with a small trick.
1st
download and install the free Copperlan Software. It’s a very good virtual MIDI interface with virtual MIDI cables.2nd
start Copperlan and configurate it to your needs. You can create as many virtual MIDI connections as you need.3rd
go to Reason’s preferences create a new MIDI control surface and set one of the virtual MIDI connections created in Copperlan as MIDI in.4th
in Renoise route the MIDI outs of your pattern track to the same virtual MIDI connection you configurated in Reason as MIDI in.5th
now in Renoise load an Instr. MIDI Control device in your configurated MIDI out pattern track and set up some MIDI CC numbers for your Automations.6th
switch to Reason and use these configurated MIDI CC numbers via the remote control feature for your parameter to be automated. Now you can control these parameters with the Renoise Istr. MIDI Control’s configurated CC faders. Write some automations for the faders, press play and the parameters in Reason will be automated in realtime.BUT NOTE:
by automating this way, you need to render your song to an audio file with realtime mode. Otherwise the automations will not be rendered. This way the automations work like controlling a hardware synth with Renoise.
Like I have said before .,
step 1 -Insert a renoise rewire device for EVERY REASON DEVICE YOU CREATE ., put it on every renoise track ( and name it )
step 2 ’ -Route each reason device to a separate output in the reason audio interface bus ( top of reason screen )
Step 3 -Create a an empty renoise instrument for every reason device
step 4 -Point renoise midi out to each reason device .
No need for midi loopback etc…