I would like to hear your music made with Renoise or other Daws

Thank you!

That is a really compliment, makes me happy to hear that. Thank you!!

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That has a really mellow vibe. I feel the vocoder sound is perhaps a little bit too loud. Didn’t catch the previous version with the dry vocals. But I think the tune could be use some “unvocded” vocals as well. Perhaps with the vocoder sitting underneath it.

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I like the track! But I agree with @TheBellows on the mix and reverb. Production wise this is sounding a bit too much early 90s to my ears.

Usually I recommend people spend more time on their composition and less time on the mix. But you’ve got the music you want to make down. And I think your music would be better served if you put a bit more effort into mixing it.

You can still drown it in reverb, which fits with the style. But a bit more punch and clarity would be a good thing, I reckon.

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been a while again, so here’s another one with (almost) solely relying on vital synth:

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I like the busier sections of your tune. From around the 3 minute mark. And the way things start to pick up again after the 5 minute mark. Those feel a bit more alive to me.

Very nice man I can hear you put a lot of effort in this one. Terrific mix also.

Thanks for your feedback @eretsua @stoiximan
The mix indeed gets quite busy at times… always tempted to get me in trouble with competing frequencies :slight_smile:

After listening to the tune on a smaller system in a different room I noticed some nasty resonances in the midbass area which I hopefully fixed in a version now available on SoundCloud:

The YouTube version will most probably sound awful on smaller systems with 5" or smaller woofers.

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Strange, on my 5 inch JBLs, your youtube mix sounds more pleasant. The new seems to be more tight, but also seems to have a lot of transients around 1-4k or so? Maybe a multiband negative transient shaper at that frequency window could help? I don’t know :sweat_smile:

That’s odd to hear! All I changed was applying a negative
12db bell EQ in the 120-150hz region for bass + drum groups and a high shelf at around 6k with -1db. Compression and limiter settings remained untouched. However, by applying negative EQ gains I also change the input gain of the master limiter (ozone 9 maximizer) ever so slightly. Maybe you’re hearing that, which would be remarkable ! :slight_smile:

A month older than the previous one, but this time (this morning) I tried to do something about the sounds/that reverb. Baby steps/shooting in the dark, not sure (watched few videos and read some forum threads) which way it really went… But you have got to start somewhere? :slight_smile:

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Much much better, you are on the right track.Mixing is a bitch and i myself pretty much suck at it big time.

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…Maybe my audio interface just is set too loud, so it distorts. On notebook speakers, I agree, second is more smooth sounding.

@Cursed nice tune! :metal: the mix is much improved in this one.

Definitely a challlenge… Does anyone else here mix against pink noise? I find it pretty useful for keeping my ears from getting away from me. Obviously, gain staging is super important, and during the process of composing/arranging it really helps to know what your loudest element in the mix is going to be and to mix everything else relative to that loudest element - in my case it’s usually the kick maxxed at -12db. Once the piece is more or less finished, I’ll solo each monoed track against normalized pink noise and reset levels so that the sound barely pushes through the noise. This can really help to balance the frequency profile of the piece, as music itself can be considered a form of pink noise - or at least tends to follow pink noise-like energy distributions.

From wikipedia:

An accessible introduction to the significance of pink noise is one given by Martin Gardner (1978) in his Scientific American column “Mathematical Games”.[12] In this column, Gardner asked for the sense in which music imitates nature. Sounds in nature are not musical in that they tend to be either too repetitive (bird song, insect noises) or too chaotic (ocean surf, wind in trees, and so forth). The answer to this question was given in a statistical sense by Voss and Clarke (1975, 1978), who showed that pitch and loudness fluctuations in speech and music are pink noises.[13][14] So music is like tides not in terms of how tides sound, but in how tide heights vary.

Pink noise describes the statistical structure of many natural images.[15] Recently, it has also been successfully applied to the modeling of mental states in psychology,[16] and used to explain stylistic variations in music from different cultures and historic periods.[17] Richard F. Voss and J. Clarke claim that almost all musical melodies, when each successive note is plotted on a scale of pitches, will tend towards a pink noise spectrum.[18] Similarly, a generally pink distribution pattern has been observed in film shot length by researcher James E. Cutting of Cornell University, in the study of 150 popular movies released from 1935 to 2005.[19]

Pink noise has also been found to be endemic in human response. Gilden et al. (1995) found extremely pure examples of this noise in the time series formed upon iterated production of temporal and spatial intervals.[20] Later, Gilden (1997) and Gilden (2001) found that time series formed from reaction time measurement and from iterated two-alternative forced choice also produced pink noises.[21][22]

Once everything is balanced against the pink noise, I’ll bring things back into stereo, check levels, adjust to taste, pushing some elements more forward in the mix, some further back… Apply some mastering chain, and call it good. My mixes could surely use improvement, but using pink noise is a quick and dirty trick for more balanced and coherent mixes, in my experience.

Of course, shelving eq/filters are totally essential for keeping the low end clear & generally improving mix clarity. the more elements you have competing for the same frequency space, the less clarity you get.

my two cents, for whatever it’s worth :upside_down_face:

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I made this for halloween, its fairly simple instrumental hip hop work

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I think the reapers are about to arrive on earth. :slightly_smiling_face:
Nice video, too.

Nice voice, did you use a talk box?

I’m not sure if this is good or bad. :upside_down_face:

Everything sounds worse on Youtube, especially if you’re creating videos with an outdated Windows Moviemaker just like me. Your mix is good and your song is cool, would have been a great opener for a set of Sven Väth in the late 90s. I can almost hear Sven saying “HR3 Clubnight, heute mit Sven Väth. Ihr hört das neueste Stück von keith303, Klimmmmmmperkastennnnnn. Auf geht’s!”. It took 2 minutes to get into the tune, but at the latest when the hat comes in the vibe is getting intense. I like it, well done!

So you have to be a John and everything will be ok. :wink:
But yes, I also have the feeling that the longer it takes dealing with a mix the more my mixes suck. You have to realize that there simply is no perfect mix. Even pro mixes sound different all the time. There is no holy grail, I’m sure.

Are you the one who talked about it one year ago or something like that? I never tried it, but I’m sure it can be useful. I still do it like that and I’m still not a pro. But I think the results are quite good. Summarized in one sentence: I mix in mono until every single instrument is audible and well balanced in total, then I switch back to stereo and adjust the details.

Quite good, but too short again. :wink:

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The Sven Väth reference really made me laugh and triggered festival memories. "the message is guuuude laune alderr! :slight_smile: thanks for your words and taking the listen!

Opium and its derivatives are very addictive and only dulls your senses. That said, if i on a travel came across the opurtunity to try to smoke raw opium i would probably consider it, but i could recommend many other substances that are a lot safer and way more exiting, but this is not the forum for that. :wink:

I must try this. :slight_smile:

Hehe, it was his message in the 2000s, yes.
In the 90s it was simply subbä. Peace, love and everything you need. :sweat_smile:
Keep 'em coming, your tracks are legit. Weitermachen!

Tetrahydrocannabinol rulez. :wink:
But the best and most exciting drug in the world is sports, a good and HARD workout, no doubt about that.

You won’t be disappointed. :slightly_smiling_face:

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So cool! This is the kind of music that brought me into electronic music. Reminds me of Goliath compilation :grinning: :grinning: :grinning: What synth do you use?

Last track for now with SunVox

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