INSTR: Volume Velocity Tracker: Sensitivity Curve


(EatMe) #1

update:

Haio taktik I love you,

What I’m missing as feature in the new instrument editor:

the option to set a velocity sensitivity curve per sample (per layer)

So that you can make instruments that gradually introduce each sample with velocity differently raising volume per sample via the selected or maybe even edited curve.

so that e.g. the velocity/volume sensitivity is very low curved to equally divided over the range to very high curved;
“fixed velocity” should still be possible by turning off the VEL->VOL button per sample.

5 curves (like in the Hydra for parameters) for velocity sensitivity would already allow more complex layering of sounds.


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(vV) #2

You can assign modulation sets or effect chains per sample.
Add a couple of sets. define them then click the sample(s) you want it to apply and then click the radio button in front of the set that you want to apply to it /them.

If that is not what you meant, then i need a different perspective of the question…


(EatMe) #3

What I mean is:

While layering, each sample should respond differently in volume to the velocity.
This is achieved with a velocity / volume sensitivity curve.

For example:

Sample 1 has a regular velocity curve ( / ) and thus equally divided velocity/volume levels

at v00, the level is -100
at v20, the level is -75
at v40, the level is -50
at v60, the level is -25
at v80, the level is -0

Sample 2 has a low velocity sensitivity curve; so the volume is lower on velocities below v80

at v00, the level is -100
at v20, the level is -90
at v40, the level is -80
at v60, the level is -60
at v80, the level is -0

Sample 3 has a high velocity sensitivity curve; so the volume is higher on velocities above v00

at v00, the level is -100
at v20, the level is -40
at v40, the level is -20
at v60, the level is -10
at v80, the level is -0


this all could be represented with curves or an editable curve.


(EatMe) #4

Note: This should be part of the Keyzones editor in the instrument editor


(vV) #5

I’m not sure if you are getting me or maybe i am not getting you…

I would translate your idea like this:

  
Sample 1 has a regular velocity curve ( / ) and thus equally divided velocity/volume levels  
  
at v00, the level is -100  
at v20, the level is -75  
at v40, the level is -50  
at v60, the level is -25  
at v80, the level is -0  
  
[Set: set 01] [Vol]  
[+][Velocity tracking device 1] min slider =0 and max slider =100  [Velocity tracking device 2] min slider =0 and max slider =25  
  
Sample 2 has a low velocity sensitivity curve; so the volume is lower on velocities below v80  
[Set: set 02] [Vol]  
[+][device x] param1=value1, param2=value 2  [device y] param1=value1, param2=value 2  
  
  
at v00, the level is -100  
at v20, the level is -90  
at v40, the level is -80  
at v60, the level is -60  
at v80, the level is -0  
  
Sample 3 has a high velocity sensitivity curve; so the volume is higher on velocities above v00  
[Set: set 03] [Vol]  
[+][device x] param1=value1, param2=value 2  [device y] param1=value1, param2=value 2  
  
at v00, the level is -100  
at v20, the level is -40  
at v40, the level is -20  
at v60, the level is -10  
at v80, the level is -0  
  

For sample 2 and 3 i’m not sure how to quickly make up a combination of devices that set up this specific curve for you but in the above description, replace [device x] and [device y] with what you need to provide that curve.

If the figures are too specific, the only way would be simply adding more samples.

I don’t think so, every sample = a keyzone.
You won’t be able to have unassigned samples inside an instrument anylonger as well as that you cannot assign one sample to multiple keyzones.


(EatMe) #6

This would solve my problem also:

A sensitivity curve in the Volume Velocity Tracker in the Instrument Editor / Modulation

4397 Renoise_Velocity_Curve.JPG

The curve is selectable to divide the input velocity differently over the range.


(EatMe) #7

this


(EatMe) #8

yay! It got implemented!


(PPH) #9

Was this really added to Renoise’s features? If so, where? Sorry I’m bumpling an old thread, but I’m trying to do something similar with modulation, and it would be easier if there was a more natural way of doing it.


(EatMe) #10

Yes, this feature got added to many devices.

Hydra device, for example, contains the curves to use at other devices parameters with one slider for many parameters on many devices on many tracks.

Velocity Tracker device
Signal Follower device

and more…