Instrument Envelope Suggestion

Another small thing I was wondering about since I was thinking of the envelopes in my other post… Is there any good reason why the volume envelopes, panning, etc. do not affect the output of VSTi’s?

Couldn’t the sample data output generated by the VSTi be routed through the envelopes in the same way a normal sample is? I think this would be super duper useful.

I don’t see why there’d be a big problem with handling volume, panning, cutoff and resonance, but I can see that pitch might be a weird one to deal with. Maybe the pitch envelope could send pitchbend data to the VSTi (whether it supported it or not)?

Just a thought. Sorry if it’s already mentioned in another thread, I didn’t have time to do a big search at the moment.

I agree very much.
Of course this will not work as samples because there is only one stream coming out of vst’s.
Each note does not have its own stream like the Renoise samples do have.
However. This really should not prevent the envelopes working on the vsti IMO. Even though it might sound weird on polyphonic vsti’s etc.

The new RNI format should IMO be designed to contain as many elements you wish (several vsti or several samplebased instruments etc) in a three view. Each element in the threeview (shown in the instrument list), has its own DSP chain where you can add devices such as LFO, Envelopes, Vst etc.

Then its up to you to add the Envelope Device in the right place. You choose what elements of the instrument it should affect.

Instead of a half baked solution for this, i’d prefer some future ehancement to the RNI format like Pysj suggested.