Just As If I Remember - phase + chorus in one wet signal pass (or, when does Renoise allow effects in Doofer with WET)

I want (for no other purpose than to make music and then Blatantly Self Promote this)

an effect (VST2, maybe internal Renoise)

that does the following

Modulate PHASE DIFFERENCE after FLANGE/CHORUS DIFFERENCE
Modulate FLANGE/CHORUS DIFFERENCE after PHASE DIFFERENCE

of the original signal, in one complete to make WET pass.

This would then go to a WET/DRY knob, to mix the original signal.

The GENERAL PARAMETERS for such an effect would be

  • WET/DRY
  • GAIN
  • CIRCUIT FILTER STEPS (similar like the Phaser Steps) to pass WET signal into combination of filters (*1)

The PHASE DIFFERENCE would have interface options:

  • Hz RANGE (min and max) - 2 knobs with value precision display and CTRL precise setting
  • FREQUENCY (LFO RATE) - 1 knob with value precision display and CTRL precise setting
    ** (HOST TEMPO LEARN) - checkmarkbox = FREQUENCY knob off, TEMPO STEPS on
    ** (TEMPO STEPS) - options to choose (note divisions like 1/32, 1/1)
  • FEEDBACK - 1 knob with value precision display and CTRL precise setting
  • STEREO WIDENESS - 1 knob with value precision display and CTRL precise setting
  • PHASER FILTER STEPS - value selection, maybe per knob for easy access

The FLANGE/CHORUS would have interface options:

  • DELAYRANGE - 1 knob with value precision display and CTRL precise setting,
    0.00000000000000000000000000000001 msec to 100 msec (or alike)
  • LFO RATE - 1 knob with value precision display and CTRL precise setting
    ** (HOST TEMPO LEARN) - checkmarkbox = LFO RATE knob off, TEMPO STEPS enabled
    ** ((LFO RATE, HOST) TEMPO STEPS) - options to choose (note divisions like 1/32, 1/1)
  • FEEDBACK - 1 knob with value precision display and CTRL precise setting
  • DEPTH - 1 knob with value precision display and CTRL precise setting

This new effect would allow a combined, new form of effecting a sound.

I can now replicate the sound of such an effect, by creating a Send track.
I can, however, not mix this back further into a Group or other device chain.

Example:
(NOISE!) wet only, phase + chorus

(NOISE!) 50%wet/50%dry, phase + chorus

here you go

can it be done with routing?

Not completely. I would need a Send track, so then I can not mix it back. (Or two tracks, as I used to create the example)

So you want to send something from a track with a #send to a send track and send I back to the track you are sending from?

That is impossible. I want development of a VST or Renoise effect to combine both effects in one pass. Or, the solution in Renoise would be, effect combining Doofers with WET/DRY knobs.

Not if you got Jack Router Audio for PC or Blackhole16ch Mac but it has nothing to do with that?

I can not access the interface.

The D.A.W.
The Plugin settings

route a VST plugin from the D.A.W. into Jack Audio Router too?
sounds like saddling up the pigeon…

OK I’m going to saddle up my pigeon and see if that can send from a Renoise #send track back to the original track.

Jack does not allow to appear as VST?

So it is not an audio signal you want to send with a #send from a track to a send track and back in to the track where the audio originally came from?

Maybe, but actually I want a signal to be effected by phaser + chorus and a wet/dry knob.