Looking For Some Good, Fat Subbass

Uuav · January 22, 2011, 9:07pm

I agree with pure sine, try to send it to a bass amp and then record it again, it will add some great harmonics and compression that will make it sound more fat.

Tarek-FM · January 22, 2011, 9:34pm

word this +1

pirate_utopia · January 24, 2011, 6:21pm

off topic:

I saw the movie in English but with Spanish subtitles. One of my favorites (plus Stalker, Donnie Darko, Apocalypse Now, The Godfather, Natural born Killers, and a lot of Werner Herzog documentaries)

I live in the south of Argentina, in Bariloche, maybe he lives more in the south, Tierra del fuego is the southest place before Antartica.

On topic: Native instruments are great, but very expensive. And I think is better to learn about waveforms, DSP and production techniques before, because you can have Massive but dont have any idea about how to use it (besides using the presets)

kickofighto · January 24, 2011, 7:02pm

look at the waveform used at the start of this song…

informative

Dalvidos · January 24, 2011, 10:33pm

Thanks for the tip did the trick

Ooh an extra little tip. That little click between notes is caused by the waves not joining smoothly. You’ll get a little annoyed with the maths, but do slides instead. worth the trouble. Test this by playing the desired note shortly after the slide, if you’re right the pitch won’t change, but you’ll hear the little click.

Tarek-FM · January 25, 2011, 12:02am

My pleasureeeee!!!

wait a min…u r same guy asking about bass bombs in metal…could u pls tell me what metal song(s) uses this?? cuuuuuuurioussssssssssss!!! thx!!

kasmo · January 25, 2011, 10:52pm

a neverending story but that´s why i love music production !

Tarek-FM · January 25, 2011, 11:13pm

HAAAA!!! Ain’t that the truth!!! It never stops!!! The story of my life!

…and yes, that too is why i love music production as well

Psyche_Poppet · January 28, 2011, 7:53am

Three, two octave shots of bass. Sine, Triangle, and Square(ish) from a DotCom.

MrPoppetBass2Oct.zip

If you want hardware:
I have used store demos of the Korg, never owned. I does not seem very well built, but the sound is ok. I do If you want something a bit more solid, I owned an Ion for years and that held up to its share of abuse. Based on that experience, I would consider the Micron as an alternative.

egoadsr · January 28, 2011, 9:23am

Itchi Subsonic free VST

Jonas · January 30, 2011, 5:43pm

woutervanasseldonk · January 31, 2011, 3:54pm

Subbass is quite simple to achieve as stated above but I really advice you not to buy a microkorg if you’re going hardware, I’d simply use software for this.
I’ve tested a microkorg and the sound is fine it’s just not very convenient programming and editing, also filter automation is not quite easy. The thing is you can get a lot better synths for the price of the Korg.
If you want to use hardware you better get like a Moog MG-1 or a Novation X station (goes really deep with the subs, also for square subs in combination with the filtering.) If you by any chance have a decent analog mixer sometimes the EQ is also very useful for adding some low frequency. (while using hardware that is)

centipus · January 31, 2011, 4:56pm

Thanks for the DotCom samples, Psyche Poppet!

Psyche_Poppet · January 31, 2011, 9:57pm

You’re welcome. I have more samples posted in various blogs that I recommend. They aren’t hard to find and there’s different equipment too.

A good place to start is here: X

Dalvidos · January 31, 2011, 11:41pm

Look at my post on the subject. Plenty of songs. Pretty much ALL deathcore bands lol. A good deathcore breakdown will have a good bass bomb.

Tarek-FM · March 2, 2011, 10:07pm

Ah cheers m8…was very curious…will check them out!

lw_pss · March 3, 2011, 12:49pm

http://rhythm-lab.com/sub-basses-pack

Tarek-FM · March 3, 2011, 11:30pm

Whilst much of the info/links in this thread can be useful in their own right, I believe it can steer many a newcomer off track…it is the craziest idea to believe you need so much equipment or vsts to do basic things!! SERIOUSLY just put the renoise chip .xrni at the right volume in context of the track and layer accordingly of course…I am sorry but the idea of using a vst for a sub is just beyond superflous!

I rattle subwoofers regularly with the built-in .xrni!

I have included my original response for those who missed it…

Tarek-FM:

I used to think there was some special magic sub-bass synth as well. INCORRECT!!!

All sub bass is only a sine wave…I repeat ALL SUB BASS IS ONLY A SINE WAVE!!

The built in Renoise Chip.XRNI(sine, triangle and square) are more than up to the task,its really not complicated. The triangle and square waveforms are useful as they have built in harmonics…low pass them enough and they are just sine waves.

Slight pitch envelope at the start will give your sub a nice attack if desired. Obviously layering sounds on top of your sub can give it some desired character.

Other than that its just arrangement and mixing properly, something no synth will do for you.

Repeat after me: Sub-bass is only a sine wave!

ps…I just read that you are thinking of getting hardware for your sub… u must be kidding me m8! A sive wave sounds no fatter coming out of any equipment or software!! The “fatness” u are refering to comes from layering, pitch envelopes, saturation{easily accomplished w/free vsts), proper note/frequency selection and relative volume to the rest of the mix and quality of the mix!!

edit: if ppl are wondering where this semi-rant is coming from, the poster tryed out my suggestions and realised this was the way forward quite some time ago…sometimes i feel as if ppl don’t read through the threads completely b4 posting a response to see if they are actually being helpful or not!

The answer to where to find Good, Fat, Sub-bass is Renoise, case closed!

This is something that should be embraced as there are many things that we do have to look elsewhere for!

mikeh11 · March 4, 2011, 12:51am

coger mina
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Tarek-FM · March 4, 2011, 10:50am

JAJA!!! Gracias!!!