Metal Drummer Fill Tips

Hello, I try to make drum fills in renoise, I can do the “normal” sd-tom1-tom2-tom3 but I cant seem to get tripplets in to the fills, my normal fill looks like this

c-401 <–first 4 sd
c-401 60
c-401
c-401 60
c-401 <—tom 1
c-401 60
c-401
c-401 60
c-401 <–tom 2
c-401 60
c-401
c-401 60
c-401 <— tom3
c-401 60
c-401
c-401 60

any tips on how to make fills sound more real an advanced ? It dosent have to be metal, jazz an fussion are more than welcome…

thanx

first of all, are you using sample based XRNI instruments, or VSTi?

I assume the first option is true.

I see you set a lower volume (60) to get the accent feeling.
This is good, but not enough: you also need to set a slight sample offset, in order to reduce the attack of the sample: try something like this:

  
C-4 01 80 0000  
C-4 01 60 0902  
  

also, don’t use always the same volume values (80 and 60): a drummer tend to strike the snare/tom harder on the first trigger, and a bit softer after:

  
  
instr. 01 = snare  
instr. 02 = hi tom  
instr. 03 = mid tom  
instr. 04 = low tom  
  
C-4 01 80 0000  
C-4 01 60 0902  
C-4 01 80 0901  
C-4 01 60 0903  
C-4 02 70 0000  
C-4 02 60 0902  
C-4 02 70 0902  
C-4 02 60 0904  
C-4 03 80 0000  
C-4 03 60 0902  
C-4 03 80 0901  
C-4 03 60 0903  
C-4 04 70 0000  
C-4 04 60 0902  
C-4 04 70 0902  
C-4 04 60 0904  
  

this will surely sound better.

of course, you have to find the best volume and 09xx values to fit your samples.

regarding triplets, I assume you are using speed 06, so you have 6*4=24 ticks for each 4-rows-beat (if you have beats made of 4 rows, of course): this mean you have to put a note each 24/3=8 ticks:

  
C-4 01 80 0000 F106 => each row have 6 ticks  
C-4 01 60 0902 0D02 => delays 2 ticks => 6 ticks + 2 ticks = 8 ticks since first note  
C-4 01 70 0901 0D04 => delays 4 ticks => 8 ticks + 4 ticks + 4 ticks = 16 ticks since first note  
--- -- ----  
  

this performs accented triplets

:drummer:

thanx

yes i use samples

oh… thanks… I learned something too!

being new to trackers… i didn’t think of starting the sample 1/256th after its start… i’ll use this technique when needed.